Abortion Memorial Service

Pro Choice = Anti Life!




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From the book Prolife answers to Prochoice Arguments:

"What is legal is not always right. Law doesn’t reflect morality – rather the law should reflect a morality that is independent of the law. Case in point: was abortion immoral on January 21, 1973 and moral on January 23, 1973? In the 1940’s a German doctor could kill Jews legally, while in America he would have been prosecuted for murder. In the 1970’s and American doctor could kill unborn babies legally, while in Germany he would have been prosecuted for murder. Laws change. Truth and justice don’t."

Pro Choice = Anti Life!


Getting The Truth Out
Posted by darwinatridge on Wed Aug 17 at 03:19:pm
This is a wonderful site. There is so much information out there and it is often not easy to put it all together in one place so people can find it without having to spend so much time to find it. I have endevored to try and put as much information on my websites so that it can be easily accessed.
http://www.youchoose2008.org/
http://www.deathbyabortion.org/
Much of this information is very graphic and as you will see very partisan, but that is the nature of the beast when you are dealing with the evil that is taking place in this world. It is imposible not to be one sided when you look at it from Gods prospective. What I believe is happening in America is that God is knocking the fence walkers off of the fence. Which side of the fence they fall on is totally up to them.

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Babies Saved!
Posted by lifeandliberty on Wed Aug 3 at 09:54:pm
One Baby Was Saved At The Abortion Clinic Today And Another Save Is Connected To LLM'S Richmond Literature Drop Project

This morning eleven Christians "showed up" on the street at Richmond Medical Center for Women.

I stated in my last update on Saturday, July 30, "when Christians show up, babies are saved". Today another baby escaped death and another mother escaped the guilt of killing her child.

Here's what happened.

"A couple drove in and the man let a woman out to go into the killing center. He then parked his car. As he approached the door, Mary Penner called out to him and offered him a packet of LLM's literature. He walked over and accepted it. Mary challenged him to take it inside and give it to the woman he had brought to the mill. He did. Some time later they both came back out. Mary said that she was happy to see them leaving. The woman, with a big smile on her face, thanked Mary. She said that she was also glad to be leaving and again thanked Mary for intervening."

The second victory is connected to our ongoing Richmond Literature Drop Campaign. Our Father uses even our mistakes for His glory

This morning Lauren Murch related the following story.

Several weeks ago a crew from the Murch clan joined us on the street in our effort to get convicting pro-life Gospel literature into every home in Richmond. On this particular day a group of three young people ended up on a street corner waiting to be picked up by me as we worked the streets. I couldn't find them because they ended up at the wrong corner, or so I thought. Our Father had His own plans.

While standing on the corner, Lauren Murch handed a piece of our literature to a woman who then asked Lauren to put some on a particular door because the woman who...

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FACE THE TRUTH VIRGINIA CAMPUS TOUR
Posted by lifeandliberty on Mon Jul 25 at 06:37:pm
A ministry opportunity from Life and Liberty Ministries

This is the schedule for LLM's upcoming annual tour. The Face The Truth Virginia Campus Tour will run through the week of September 26 - 30, 2005.


Universities, High Schools, and other busy areas are our target locations. If you are a born-again Christian with a heart for the murdered preborn and a desire to share God's Word with the lost, consider joining with us on this short-term mission.

The cities and towns that will be visited are listed below but the exact locations can be obtained by contacting LLM at 804-492-9216 or by e-mail at lifeandliberty@juno.com

Monday, Sept. 26
7:00 AM - Richmond

11 AM - Williamsburg

3:30 PM - Norfolk

Tuesday, Sept. 27
6:45 AM - Norfolk

10:30 AM - Norfolk

Afternoon stop TBA

Wednesday, Sept. 28
7:00 AM - Richmond

10:30 AM - Richmond

3:30 PM - Richmond

Thursday, Sept. 29
8:00 AM - Charlottesville

11:30 AM - Charlottesville

Afternoon stop TBA

Friday, Sept. 30
7 AM - Bridgewater / Harrisonburg

10:30 AM - Harrisonburg

The following information sheet gives many of the logistical details that you may have questions about and is a must-read if you are considering joining with us on this short-term mission:


Dennis Green

Life and Liberty Ministries P.O. Box 862 Powhatan, VA 23139 (804) 492-9216

...

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Pro-Life?
Posted by MagnoliaAngel on Sun Jul 17 at 11:50:am
This is a conversation between me and my father as of yesterday.

Me: Did you know that they say babies are tourtured when they are being aborted and that they could feel death?

Dad: I doubt it, they are only about 3 months. You need to quit watching TBN, it is totally obvious that the republicans run it. You only hear one side to the story but not the other side.

Me: Yeah, but Abortion is murder,still!

Dad: I wouldn't talk because what if you got raped tomorrow and impregnated? Seriously--would you keep it?

Me: (Nothing.)

Dad: Then you arent pro life. You can only be one or the other.

I don't know what to believe now. just thought you guys could help me out...

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Abortion
Posted by biochemrex on Fri Jun 17 at 01:51:am
The weirdness of the abortion debate is that the Atheists accept a Christian Scriptural view while the Christians argue from Buddhist doctrine.
The Jews believe that a human person does not exist until a baby is borne. There is no teaching against abortion in the Bible which endorses it against enemies. Psalm 137 teaches that it is good to kill the babies of enemies.
Jesus says he does not deny Jewish law and has no qualification on this subject. Of the early Church fathers, the most influential St Aquinas taught that human life - ensoulment, took place at 60 days, not at conception.
However Buddhist doctrine has always maintained that life begins at conception and to procure an abortion or even practice birth control is a non virtuous act of the most serious kind,(a mortal sin).
However over the years Christian values have come under Buddhist and Pagan influence while Christians have cast aside traditional Christian beliefs and values. Keith

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Bop-o
Posted by LindaBee2 on Thu May 26 at 02:13:am
Recently, I became engaged in a debate with a professing Christian who supports embryonic stem cell research. Given my staunch pro-life stance, I obviously am opposed to E.S.C.R. Here are a few quotes from Bop-o.

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MAY 24 - I'm sorry, but social conservatives seem to say the same things regardless of religious persuation. I find it dificult to tell the difference between the opinions of Christian, Jewish or Muslim Fundamentalists. I get the feeling these people would be "unwilling to abandon their principles" even if these principles were directly contridicted by the religion they profess to believe.

And another thing, I have yet to see these "murder" opinions supported directly by scripture -- only indirectly by applying the principles of social conservatism to their interpretation of scripture. Their interpretation of when life begins is not supported by scripture. Catholics do not allow the use of condoms or birth control based on the very same false teachings.

MAY 25 - Lin:
I agree with you when you say that "murder is the malicious and purposeful killing of another human being." However, in answer to your question I stand by my statement that your belief about the fetus is NOT based on scripture, as The Bible CLEARLY states that life and personhood *begins* with "breath" (Genesis 2:7; Ezekiel 37:5) and ends when the spirit leaves the body (Eccles. 12:7; James 2:26)

With the creation of "man" in Genesis 2:7, God: "...breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living being."

I point out that the Hebrew word for human being or living soul is nephesh, which is also the word for "breathing." Nephesh occurs ...
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Psalm 139:13-16
Posted by mike england on Fri Apr 8 at 05:28:pm
Psalm 139:13-16


13 For you created my inmost being;

you knit me together in my mother's womb.

14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;

your works are wonderful,

I know that full well.

15 My frame was not hidden from you

when I was made in the secret place.

When I was woven together in the depths of the earth,

16 your eyes saw my unformed body.

All the days ordained for me

were written in your book

before one of them came to be.

http://www.jesusforums.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=56

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Abortion is always wrong
Posted by arunangelo on Wed Mar 30 at 11:47:pm
Women have abortions for many reasons. They include: unwed or teenage pregnancies, pregnancies due to rape or incest, fetal deformities and inconvenience. Abortion is the worst type of violence and an extreme act of terrorism; because, it terrorizes and kills, innocent and helpless human beings. It is also the worst crime a human being can commit, because, in this act a mother, who is supposed to protect and nurture her baby, gets her own innocent baby killed. It therefore, brings perpetual unrest to the people who have it and the society that permits it. Some people justify abortion, because, they feel that a fetus is not a human being. However, irrespective of the different arguments people have, for or against, to prove that fetuses or human embryos are human beings; no one can deny the fact that abortion is destruction of a genetically distinct human life. In addition, since a large number of people feel that a fetus or an embryo is a human being, it is our duty to protect them (even if we do not consider them as human beings), because, if others are correct, then, destroying a fetus or embryo is murder. If a group of people went hunting, and half of them see an animal in the distant and want to shoot it, but the other half think it is a human being, the benefit of the doubt has to be in favor of it being a human being. The same logic also applies to abortion. Some people realize that abortion is wrong; however, they do not want to force their belief on others. However, protecting the life of innocent human beings is our civic duty, and has nothing to do with our belief. We have laws against murder, although it is a religious belief that murder is wrong. In this case we don’t say that we are imposing our belief on others. Others argue that a woman has a right to choose to not have a baby. However, when a woman becomes pregnant, she already has the baby; therefore, the question about her right with respect to that pregnancy is not an issue. Some people ju...

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Wolves and Children
Posted by lifeandliberty on Sat Mar 5 at 07:19:pm
Wolves and Children

The fact of the matter is that some forms of "ministry work" are more appealing to the flesh than others. I rejoice that the Heavenly Father has put me where I am, but I don't find street outreach at abortion clinics to be very enjoyable. As a matter of fact I am finding that abortion clinic outreach is very unpleasant.

Although there are many examples I could give, let me just share two experiences I have had in the last week to illustrate what I mean. Last week I encountered three individuals as they approached the door to "Richmond Medical Center for Women". I approached a young girl of fifteen with her parents. I began to share information about the dangers of abortion, the help available, and the Gospel. To my suprise, the young girls father allowed me to share at length.

In the end, the family tearfully went home with the daughters preborn child still intact. This may sound like a wonderful victory, and it was to some degree.

But here is the problem I so often see on the street. It's cowardice and complacency on the part of family members who bring their loved ones to have their children chopped up. It never ceases to amaze me how many of the family members who bring girls to the clinic claim to be opposed to the decision to kill the baby. This of course doesn't stop them from driving the car, offering "support" etc. So many today are steeped in cowardice and complacency and are so worried that they might offend, that they actually become accomplices in the murder of the innocent child. By God's grace, we are sometimes able to infuse some backbone into these accomplices and they actually rise up and play a key role in saving the childs life. More often that not, however, they simply stand around and do nothing.

I encountered a "wolf" two days ago at "A Capital Women's Health Clinic". Some may doubt this and say that w...

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embryonic stem cell research -- no results...
Posted by tuppence on Wed Feb 16 at 12:45:pm
Thought this article might be of interest here:

Townhall.com
February 14, 2005

Embryonic stem cell research as an obsession
Donald R. May

"I will work with Congress to ensure that human embryos are not created for experimentation or grown for body parts, and that human life is never bought and sold as a commodity." 
-- President George W. Bush, State of the Union address, February 02, 2005.

Twenty-first century society was not prepared for the fact that human life could be produced for the purpose of harvesting cells or body parts for the benefit of others.  Only a few years ago we thought this was still science fiction from some futuristic Star Trek age.

Rapid scientific advancements have made it possible to produce new human life in the laboratory.  We can no longer put off the ethical questions surrounding the use of embryos and clones.

President Bush was correct to address the embryonic stem cell controversy and to provide money to fund it with appropriate limitations and safeguards.  His courage to address problems quickly and definitively, and not defer them to future administrations, may well be his greatest legacy.

Bone marrow stem cell transplants save the lives of thousands each year and have been performed for more than four decades.  The medical therapies developed from stem cell research (SCR) have produced successful results far beyond our expectations.

With all this scientific success and with more than 15,000 patients benefiting from SCR each year, why are some people apoplectic?  The answer is both simple and perplexing.  The scientific breakthroughs and the medical therapies have all come from adult stem cells and none as yet have come from embryonic stem cells.  Rather than welcoming the results and pursuing support for what works, there are paradoxically increasing demands for the recognit...

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EPHESUS PROJECT
Posted by lifeandliberty on Sat Jan 29 at 05:42:pm
The Ephesus Project

It takes a village to kill a child

Abortion clinics need a lot of help to remain open and to continue killing innocent children. Not only are "doctors", procedure room workers, and office staff needed, but so are plumbers, printing companies, and electricians and financial contributors.

The goal of the Ephesus Project is to identify and expose those businesses that associate and partner themselves with the child killing clinics of Central Virginia.

The Ephesus Project has several desired goals in mind.

1. To identify those who enable abortionists to continue their assault upon innocent children.

2. To reveal to the Church and business community, the names and addresses of those businesses that fund, service and help maintain the abortion
industry in Central Virginia.

3. To encourage churches, businesses and individuals to contact those companies which have aligned themselves with the abortion mills to voice their concern.

4. To encourage all churches, individuals and businesses to abstain from seeking the services of any company that seeks to profit from the shedding of innocent blood.

HOW DID THESE BUSINESSES GET ON THE LIST

LLM has contacted each of the businesses listed below in hopes that they would give assurances that they would cease from willingly contributing their time, services, or money to the abortion clinics in the Greater Richmond area.

Businesses that give those assurances are removed or never make it onto the list. Our hope is to preserve the reputation of those businesses that see their error and disassociate themselves from the abortion industry.

This list is of those businesses that have ignored our letters, e-mails and faxes. Their comm...

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Supreme Court receives case to overturn Roe v. Wade
Posted by LindaBee2 on Tue Jan 18 at 02:19:am
C E N T E R F O R R E C L A I M I N G A M E R I C A
From the Desk of Dr. Gary Cass, Executive Director

+ + PRO-LIFE ALERT, 1/17/2005
Supreme Court receives case to overturn Roe v. Wade

(Forward to your pro-life friends)

Linda,

On January 18, the U.S. Supreme Court will begin a process that could overturn Roe v. Wade!

Because you have stood with the Center for Reclaiming America on pro-life issues, I wanted to alert you to this news.

On January 18, Norma McCorvey (the original "Jane Roe" of Roe v. Wade) will file a legal appeal with the Supreme Court to have Roe v. Wade reversed. I will be in Washington, D.C., on that day to stand with our friends at The Justice Foundation in support of this case.

The Justice Foundation has invested thousands upon thousands of hours in this case. They have gathered an enormous body of evidence to support Norma's case.

Linda, this is a powerful opportunity to refute Roe v. Wade!

Here is how you can help.

First, notify your friends. Forward this message to everyone you know. We simply must get the word out.

Second, please pray for Norma and the team at The Justice Foundation. Set aside time on January 18, specifically, to pray.

Third, find out more about this case and how you can impact The Justice Foundation’s efforts here:

http://www.operationoutcry.org

Thank you!

Dr. Gary Cass
Executive Director
Center for Reclaiming America

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For CENTER coverage of this issue:

http://www.reclaimamerica.org/pages/operation/operationout.asp

+ +
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Unborn babies feel pain!
Posted by LindaBee2 on Wed Jan 12 at 02:13:am
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+ + CENTER FOR RECLAIMING AMERICA

Your Immediate Action is Requested!

1/11/05

Linda,

Medical evidence is now overwhelming--unborn babies do indeed feel pain. That means that during an abortion, a baby is in agony during his or her futile struggle to stay alive!

With this scientific proof in hand, it is time for the pro-life community to rise up and ensure that pregnant women know this truth by petitioning Congress to pass the Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act.

+ + Tell Mothers the Truth About Fetal Pain + +

Abortionists do not want pregnant women to know that their babies experience excruciating pain during an abortion. Sadly, a federal judge recently called a baby's pain "irrelevant."

Now that we know the scientific truth, we want to enact a law requiring abortionists to inform all women considering an abortion after 20 weeks gestation the truth about their baby's capacity to feel pain.

We believe--as do the abortionists--that if such a bill passes into law and women know that their babies suffer as they die, many will reconsider and turn back. The truth of the pain abortion causes could save many lives!

+ + 100,000 Petitions Needed in 30 Days + +

With a new, decidedly pro-life Congress in place, hope for passage of such a bill has never been more promising!

That is why the Center is calling on the pro-life community in our nation to sign our national petition supporting the Unborn Child Pain Awareness Act.

Please take action with us and be among the very first to sign your name to this p...

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many females are fickle and change their minds
Posted by burwelm on Sun Jan 2 at 12:45:pm
Abortion is wrong. How many women do you hear saying- "I'm so glad I aborted ".

One of my friends had an abortion because her current boyfriend was not the father. That boyfriend has left her now and many times she talks like she wishes she hadn't had the abortion.

The fact is that as long as abortion is acceptable many females will feel that it is their moral duty to abort a child not because she doesn't love or want the child but because society tells us that children who don't have a stable environment will turn out "bad" and that a woman needs to have enough money to raise a child before having one. Also, most women don't trust other people with their children because they don't trust anyone and so they don't consider adaoption.

There are plenty of stories of women who, every year after she had the abortion thinks about how old the child would be and wonders what the child would have been like. Also when the women see other children that are the same age as the child she aborted it causes alot of emotional and mental trauma.

So many women who abort later feel guilty about it and wish they never had done it. Abortion hurts the mother.

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sick!
Posted by bazariah m on Sun Nov 28 at 06:58:pm
i cant believe you babble on about the good and the bad as if ooh becuase your devoted christians you can tell everybody else whats right and wrong

this link here http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php is just gross, making it seem like a woman is evil if she needs to abort.... have you ever thought that maybe just maybe those women might have anted to keep their babies but couldnt due to health reasons which may have killed both mother and baby???????

i've seen some gross stuff in my time, i check out rotten.com, but never have i been sickened in quite the way i have been on viewing those pictures on this very site, and is it even legal to show pictures of feotuses, and did you ask permission from the would be mothers????????????

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Ectopic pregnancy
Posted by LindaBee2 on Fri Nov 12 at 02:25:am
Something has been on my mind today, and I thought I'd share it with you. It concerns ectopic pregnancy. The reason I've been thinking about this is because in one of my stories, a character suffers from an ectopic pregnancy.

If you don't know what an E.P. is, it's when a fertillized egg is implanted outside the uterus, sometimes in a fallopian tube. Obviously, there is no way the baby can survive and the mother's life is put in serious jeopardy. As the child begins to grow, the tube eventually reaches the point where it will rupture, resulting in blood spotting and, in most cases, severe pain. To save the mother's life, doctors recommend the removal of the baby, meaning that the child's life is ended.

You all know how I feel about abortion. But I'm conflicted on this issue. I've heard that it's possible for doctors to move the fertillized egg to its proper place. Is that true?

Any thoughts on this matter?

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Survey for those who have aborted
Posted by Ladybuilder on Tue Nov 2 at 02:42:pm
Hello everyone. I am doing a thorough research on Post-Abortion syndrome, but I only have 14 days to present the paper with the "evidence", so if you have any suggestions I will definitely listen!


I am taking a survey of those who have aborted a child. I am in no means judging anyone!!

Here are the questions:

What state do you live in?

Did you suffer from post-abortion syndrome?

What is your faith (Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist)?

Name (optional)?


Thank you for your support!! You may e-mail me your surveys if you rather.... ladybuilderinchrist@yahoo.com You will remain anonymous!

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abortion, evolution, and morality
Posted by tuppence on Thu Oct 28 at 11:36:am
These are all being connected by Sanger's grandson, a very outspoken advocate of abortion:

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/?adate=10/25/2004#1292276

Please note the last paragraph of this article:

Alexander Sanger's argument puts the issue of abortion once again right at the center of our public argument. We must be ready to answer this Darwinist worldview with a clear alternative. If morality is nothing more than biology, our entire moral structure is aborted.

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Just the facts- life before birth, your first nine months
Posted by David on Thu Oct 14 at 01:21:pm
Just the facts- life before birth, your first nine months
http://www.justthefacts.org/clar.asp

"I believe abortion is the last official stand of the defiant apostate against God. It says, "God, you will not determine who lives or dies—I will!" The ultimate apostasy."

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Abortions at just 8 weeks *Pictures*
Posted by Sarah5775 on Sun Oct 10 at 07:48:am
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If life begins at conception...
Posted by Chris on Fri Oct 1 at 02:45:pm
why dont we celebrate Conceptiondays instead of Birthdays.? I mean, if the babies were already alive before they came out...

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Pictures of aborted children
Posted by Sarah5775 on Fri Oct 1 at 03:28:am
Go here http://clinicquotes.topcities.com/abortedpics/AbortionPictures.html

Do you think if more people saw these pictures, there would be fewer abortions?

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Abortion Websites
Posted by LindaBee2 on Thu Sep 30 at 01:07:am
Abortion Facts - www.abortionfacts.com/life_or_choice/prolife_information.asp

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adult stem cell research ignored
Posted by tuppence on Sat Sep 11 at 11:10:am
It is, of course, far more acceptable to the liberal mindset to kill babies rather than use one's own stem cells (which carry no risk of rejection) in stem cell therapies. The 'need' for embryonic stem cells appears to be a purely political ploy.

Please PLEASE read the following article. Thank you.

http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/smithw/smith200409090835.asp

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Research Paper
Posted by Ladybuilder on Mon Aug 23 at 05:41:pm
Hello everyone! I have to do a research paper on this question:

Does post-abortion syndrome exist?

I wanted to know if anyone knew some reliable sites (not personal sites) or books that I should check out?

Thank you!

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Updated Jesus Christ Forums posting rules.
Posted by Aineo on Sat Aug 21 at 10:32:am
Updated Forum Posting Rules as of August 21, 2004

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SICK RADIO AD!!!!
Posted by MichaelwithHope on Wed Aug 11 at 09:23:am
Can you believe this link i found? it goes to this website tentoseven.com i put it in my profile so people can see how sick it is...

but i found this link it makes me furious and nauseous!!!

http://www.tentoseven.com/radio/abortion.mp3

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More Quotes from Abortion Providers
Posted by Sarah5775 on Wed Aug 4 at 11:30:pm
There is a site at http://clinicquotes.topcities.com where there is a collection of quotes and documented first hand accounts of what went on in abortion clinic, as told by current and former abortion providers and clinic workers. Here a few excerpts.
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From http://clinicquotes.topcities.com/pba.html Nurse Brenda Pratt Shafer describes a Partial Birth Abortion:

"I stood at the doctor’s side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby’s heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby’s body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby’s body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby’s head, and the baby’s arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby’s brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen."
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"I can remember...the resident doctor sitting down, putting the tube in, and removing the contents. I saw the bloody material coming down the plastic tube, and it went into a big jar. My job afterwards was to go and undo the jar, and to see what was inside. I didn't have any views on abortion; I was in a training program, and this was a brand new experience. I was going...

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Little Girl, Don't Cry
Posted by webmaster on Sat Jul 10 at 10:14:pm
Little Girl, Don't Cry


Little girl, don't you cry
Though things will never be alright
There will be no mommy to hold you tight
There will be no daddy to kiss goodnight

Little girl, don't you fret
Your little life's not over yet
Mommy said she'd wait one more day
And then she'll take your life away

Precious girl inside Mommy's womb
Although this place will be your tomb
Try to rest for just this night
And think about your Mother's right

Yes, Little girl don't be sad
And think of the life you could've had
Cherish these moments with the one you love
And hug her tight till tomorrow comes

* wrote this for all the murdered babies who never had a chance*


Author - no name given.

Here are a few of them......
http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php

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MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH
Posted by newseed on Tue Jul 6 at 12:05:pm
Feminists pray to Mary for legal abortion

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MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH

Feminists pray to Mary for legal abortion
Asking that it be established throughout Latin America

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Posted: July 3, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

Despite clear Catholic teaching to the contrary, U.S. abortion advocates in Latin America have distributed a prayer card asking the Virgin Mary to intercede to establish abortion on demand throughout the region.

Many participants at the Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean meeting in Puerto Rico were stunned Monday when they received a prayer card with the words, "The love of God and of Mary of Guadalupe is greater. ... For women's lives, safe and legal abortion," reports the Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute.


The words are superimposed over an image of the Virgin Mary. The back of the card says, "Dear Mary of Guadalupe, we thank you because your love is greater, because you listen to us without judging, because you know our heart and you respect the intimacy of our decisions."

The cards were distributed by the American group Catholics for a Free Choice and its Latin American counterpart, Catolicas por el Derecho a Decidir.

One observer told the Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute, "How insulting it is that CFFC, a rich American pro-abortion group, would attempt to use the Latin American people's strong devotion to the Virgin Mary to impose their abortion agenda here."

At a press conference, CFFC released polling data that purports to show Latin American Catholics overwhelmingly accept a broad reproductive rights agend...

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Truth About Roe vs. Wade
Posted by Cherish Wisdom on Fri Jul 2 at 12:28:am
When I was in law school I learned the truth about Roe v. Wade. The subject was discussed in Constitutional Law. Our professor, who is also a judge, said that it was the worst decision that was ever made by the
Supreme Court because it was based on a lie. Before something goes to the USSC - the entire case must be based on sound facts. The judges must base their decision on what is presented BY COUNSEL. In this case - the facts of the case were fiction. Roe was not raped by a gang. She later recanted and admitted that the child was that of her boyfriend. She was not denied an abortion in Wade County Texas. She was told that she would have to PAY for the abortion. Harry Blackmun, who wrote the majority opinion - gathered his own information from Doctors at the Mayo Clinic - who had once been his clients while he was a lawyer. He presented this information to the court (It should have been presented by counsel and not by one of the justices). It was similar to a judge going out and investigating a case on his own. As you know - this does not happen normally.

Roe v Wade was based on a lie and as a result millions of unborn human lives have been lost.

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Abortion's around the year 80 A.D.
Posted by webmaster on Mon Jun 21 at 06:44:pm
Further evidence is found in the Didache, also called the Teachings of the Twelve Apostles, written about the year 80 A.D. This book was the Church's first manual of morals, liturgical norms and doctrine. In the first section? two ways are proposed: the way of life and the way of death. In following the way of life, the <Didache> exhorts, "
You shall not murder.
You shall not commit adultery.
You shall not seduce boys.
You shall not commit fornication.
You shall not steal.
You shall not practice magic.
You shall not use potions.
You shall not procure abortion, nor destroy a new-born child.
You shall not covet your neighbor's goods...."
Again, scholars link such phrases as "practice magic" and "use potions" with artificial birth control.

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Is abortion Biblical?
Posted by LindaBee2 on Mon Jun 7 at 01:39:am
According to Brian Elroy McKinley, it is. Read the following article and pray for this misguided soul.

http://www.elroy.net/ehr/abortion.html

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A Christian CANNOT be pro-choice
Posted by Believer on Mon May 31 at 12:27:am
Peace eveyone,

Anyone who claims to be a Christian but is pro-choice, you are NOT a Christian.
Jesus came here on a mission to save life, not that we destroy it.
Jesus said we must be like chidlren to enert the Kingdom of God, not destroy children.
Those that destroy innocent life are followers of Satan, whether they realize that or not.
There is no legitamite reason to say a fetus is a "thing" that can be disposed off.
It possesses a seperate DNA structute then the mother ans has it's own organs. It has his/her own soul since it is different being than the mother.
Christiasn must realize this.

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Articles
Posted by LindaBee2 on Wed May 26 at 03:30:am
Abortion Advocates Want to Weaken North Ireland's Pro-Life Laws
http://www.lifenews.com/nat529.html

New Englanders Review Death Penalty, Abortion
http://www.cpod.ubc.ca/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=2793

Abortion pill faces obstacles after second teenager dies
http://www.eacourier.com/articles/2004/05/24/news/news10.txt

Hearing on 24-hour abortion wait delayed again
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/8749355.htm?1c

Trucks Push Graphic Anti-Abortion Message
http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1907667

Scotland Program Helping Pregnant Women Avoid Abortion Helps 1000
http://www.lifenews.com/nat528.html

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Pro life people, Please read this....
Posted by EnlightedWoman on Mon May 24 at 02:13:pm
Planned Parenthood is one of the largest abortion clinics in the United States. Businesses have donated millions of dollars to planned parenthood to support the massacre of the innocent. Sign this petetion and help end Planned Parenthood funding. Please share this link with your friends, so that many more unborn children will be saved.

http://www.cutppfunding.com


Bless you all

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Babies in Hell?
Posted by beads on Thu May 20 at 11:19:am
LindaBee2 wrote:
I haven't heard of one Christian who believes that an innocent child will go to Hell. Why would that happen, when the child hasn't done anything to send him/her to Hell in the first place? A baby is incapable of sinning. It doesn't even have the foggiest idea as to what sin is. If God sent the aborted baby to Hell, that would mean that He's unjust. He only casts sinners into Hell. Since an baby has yet to commit a sin, he/she is exempt from punishment.


I'm afraid I may be drawn and quartered for even putting this out there, but here goes anyway......

The above post by LindaBee2 in another thread doesn't sit well with me for some reason. Exemption from sin until some arbitrary "age of accountability"? Can someone show me how this concept is supported by the Scriptures? And when you do, please expain to me how the following verse fits in to your expanation:
    Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

This verse seems to me to say that when we are conceived in our mother's womb, we are guilty of sin. And if that's true, then how can there be an "age of accountability"?

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Fertility Drugs and Abortion
Posted by jmc5682 on Wed May 12 at 03:50:pm
I was just wondering what everyone thought of fertility drugs and abortion. There are many woman who take fertility drugs and then get ensiminated (I think I spelled that wrong) and end up pregnant with mulitple babies. Sometime two or three, but there have been many cases of 4,5 and even 6 though rare. Doctors try and convince the woman to abort any more fetuses than 2 because of the risk involved to the mother and babies. My pesonal belief is that it should be a woman's right to choose whether she keeps all or just two of the fetuses. I do think it is a very selfish decision to try and keep more than two as the fetuses once born, will have a 90 percent chance of having problems once they are born. Problems such a CP, devlopmental disabilites, retardation, auto immune problems, learning disabilities such as ADD and Hyperactivity aetc.... Is this fair to the children? They were not conceived naturally. Whas does God think of us messing with natural conception? I was just wondering what the Christian perspective on this controversial subject would be. I would appreciate any responses.

Thanks,

JC

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why abortion is good.
Posted by Anonymous on Sun May 9 at 11:20:am
abortion is good for the following reasons:
1. Once abortion is legalized, there will be safer ways to abort the child and so there wont be unsterile stuff and deaths to the moms.
2. moms who dont want the baby, dont deserve the baby. They should lose money for the abortion beacuse of not knowing how to have safe sex.

Abortion is not bad. the child doesnt feel anything. worse comes to worse the child goes to heaven. thats good. life... is a no no. why? cuz if the mom doesnt want the child, how will she take care of it? obviously she will treat him bad.
and adoption is good...but you dont know the facts. pretend you discovered that ur parents are not really ur parents, and u where adopted. Why? how come? such turmoil and sadness is uneeded.

statistics show that out of a group of kids only a whilte boy is chosen, then second si a white girl, the is a black boy, then its a black girl.

you also have to consider why the mothers get abortions: BECAUSE THEY CANT TAKE CARE OF IT. and give it a good life. with proper education.
so thats why its good to abort it, then it can go to heaven and live happily with god. yay!

so im prochoice. the baby doesnt feel a thing. sure, the pics are nasty, but its just blood. it has no feelings yet. the soul is not in the body. the soul only becomes a part of the body when the mind is fully hooked up, and thats happens a little after the baby is born.

gerani1248

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Stars Flock to Pro-abort Rally
Posted by LindaBee2 on Wed Apr 28 at 02:28:am
From The Left Coast Reporter

Quote:
Stars Flock to Pro-abort Rally

In an apparent effort to widen the gender gap and assist the Kerry campaign, hundreds of thousands of pro-abortion demonstrators held a rally in Washington, D.C.

Roughly 1,400 organizations were involved in coordinating the event, and scads of Hollywood celebs showed up. Attendees included Cybill Shepherd, Ani DiFranco, Ashley Judd, Lisa Loeb, Salma Hayek, Amy Jo Johnson, Kathleen Turner and Whoopi Goldberg.

Techno-rocker Moby, Carole King and the Indigo Girls provided some of the background music.

Whoopi addressed the crowd. In her hand was the scare symbol of choice - a wire coat hanger. As she brandished the prop over her head she screamed, “We are one vote away from going back to this!”

The comic activist continued the theatrics. “There is a whole generation of people who don’t know what that is. This is what we used, and never again will this be the choice of any women in this world.”

Susan Sarandon directed her rally rage at President Bush. “We reject, Mr. Bush, your hypocrisy. We reject your vision of the world,” she squawked. “And we shall vote in this upcoming election and prove it.”

Julianne Moore murmured that “it’s important for them to realize that these rights are not a given, that we are going to have to fight for them.”

Additional celebs who endorsed the baby-snuffing gathering include Christina Aguilera, Jennifer Aniston, Bea Arthur, Ed Asner, Kevin Bacon, Alec Baldwin, William Baldwin, Meredith Baxter, Shari Belafonte, Polly Bergen, Stockard Channing, Jill Clayburgh, Glenn Close, Cindy Crawf...
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The March on Washington
Posted by jmc5682 on Mon Apr 26 at 05:23:pm
Congradulations to the 1 million (give or take a two hundred thousand) marchers on Washington DC over the weekend supporting a woman's right to choose what happens to her own body. I wish I could have been there to support our civil rights. We must not let biggots and lyars like President Bush put us back 30 years. Kerry in 2004! Religion does not belong in politics. What a person does with their own body is between them and their God. It is no one else's business.

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Vatican Warns Kerry Not to Take Communion
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Apr 24 at 01:21:am
Vatican Warns Kerry Not to Take Communion

Breaking from NewsMax.com

A top Vatican official close to the Pope, Cardinal Francis Arinze, emphasized today that priests must not give communion to pro-abortion politicians who claim to be Catholic.

Arinze, a Nigerian who has been mentioned as a possible successor to Pope John Paul II, did not comment specifically on whether presidential candidate John Kerry should be excommunicated.

But the inference was clear -- and Reuters news wire as well as others said the Cardinal's remarks were a clear shot across Kerry's bow.

The cardinal left no doubt about Kerry by saying that an "unambiguously pro-abortion" politician "is not fit" to receive communion.

"If they should not receive, then they should not be given," he noted.

The cardinal's directive "could influence the U.S. presidential race," Reuters observed.

Already several leading Catholic laity and clergy have told Kerry that he is excommunicated from the Church because of his abortion stance.

Kerry, meanwhile, planned to campaign with pro-choice groups today and denounce President Bush's greatest success in human rights: a ban on gruesome partial-birth abortions.

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Laci's Law
Posted by fuzz2050 on Thu Mar 25 at 10:20:pm
How do you feel about Lacis law? the law imposing punishment for crimes done to an unborn child.

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LifeNews.com Pro-Life News Report
Posted by LindaBee2 on Thu Mar 25 at 01:34:am
Quote:
LifeNews.com Pro-Life News Report
Wednesday, March 23, 2004

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TODAY'S HEADLINES

Women's Abortion Signs Get Better Reception at President Bush's
Rally
Michigan House Fails Second Overide Attempt on Parental Consent
Abortion Bill
South Carolina Choose Life Plate Declared Unconstitutional, State
Will Appeal
Georgia State Senate Votes to Move Choose Life Plate Forward
Maryland Pro-Life Unborn Victims of Violence Bill Gets Panel's
Approval
New Hampshire State House Sends Unborn Victims Bill to Study
Committee

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Women's Abortion Signs Get Better Reception at President Bush's
Rally
Orlando, FL (LifeNews.com) -- After campaign staffers for
Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry destroyed their
signs saying their abortions hurt them, Rebecca Porter and her
friend Cindy decided to try their luck with the signs at a rally
for President George W. Bush. The difference was amazing. In an
exclusive LifeNews.com story earlier this month, Porter said Kerry was "shocked and surprised" to see her sign, which read "My Abortion Hurt Me." A Kerry campaign staffer tore it to shred...
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contraceptives
Posted by fuzz2050 on Tue Mar 23 at 11:00:pm
are contraceptives an alternative to abortion?

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Judge Doesn't Strike Down Partial-Birth Abortion Ban
Posted by LindaBee2 on Tue Mar 23 at 01:35:am
http://www.lifenews.com/nat386.html

Quote:
Judge Doesn't Strike Down Partial-Birth Abortion Ban, Trial Moves Forward

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
March 18, 2004

New York, NY (LifeNews.com) -- A federal judge on Wednesday decided against overturning the ban on partial-birth abortions, saying that a trial should move forward to determine the veracity of claims by abortion advocates that such abortions are necessary to protect women's health.

The National Abortion Federation, an association of abortion businesses, filed one of the three lawsuits seeking to overturn the pro-life law. Judge Richard Casey's order denied their request to overturn the law without a trial.

As a result of Casey's decision, the trial that was previously planned for March 29 will proceed. Similar trials will occur in San Francisco and Omaha, where two other lawsuits were filed.

ACLU attorney Louise Melling told the Associated Press that her group was not discouraged by the ruling. She said her side would present evidence claiming the abortions are needed to protect the health of women, even though the abortions are mostly performed to healthy women and healthy babies.

Abortion advocates say the bill is unconstitutional because it doesn't have a health exception. The Supreme Court overturned a Nebraska ban in 2000 saying it should have contained an exception.

Pro-life groups say such exceptions allow for virtually all partial-birth abortions to remain legal because any abortion can be declared to be one that is needed for health concerns.

Casey said Congress concluded that "partial-birth abort...
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abortion and fornication comparison
Posted by fuzz2050 on Fri Mar 19 at 04:18:pm
which of these is the greater sin?

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ACLU can pursue suit over 'Choose Life' tags
Posted by LindaBee2 on Tue Mar 16 at 02:45:am
http://www.tennessean.com/government/archives/04/03/48307269.shtml?Element_ID=48307269

Quote:
ACLU can pursue suit over 'Choose Life' tags

By ROB JOHNSON
Staff Writer

Organization can proceed with legal fight, judge says

A lawsuit by the ACLU challenging Tennessee's yet-to-be issued "Choose Life" specialty license plate can proceed, a U.S. District Court judge ruled yesterday.

The state attorney general's office had argued that the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee lacked standing to pursue the lawsuit and had wanted the case dismissed at the outset.

In part, the state had argued that even if the "Choose Life" plate were declared unconstitutional, the court was not in a position to provide relief in the form of a pro-choice license plate for the other side of the issue. The plaintiff suffered no injury, in other words, the state argued, that the court could redress.

U.S. District Judge Todd Campbell disagreed. He ruled that a court could redress the ACLU's complaint by leveling the playing field, even if that meant denying one side's ability to display its speech on a state-issued license plate.

The ACLU argues that Tennessee's system of issuing specialty license plates is unconstitutional and that the General Assembly enjoys the "unbridled discretion" to determine which speech the state officially favors.

After the decision, Hedy Weinberg, head of the ACLU in Tennessee, said, "We are gratified the court saw fit to let the case move forward. We look forward to presenting what we feel are strong constitutional arguments...
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Laci Peterson and her husbands double murder charges
Posted by fuzz2050 on Tue Mar 9 at 02:01:pm
How do you feel about Scot Peterson getting double murder charges for the murder of laci and her unborn child?

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Stop Abortion
Posted by fuzz2050 on Fri Mar 5 at 12:51:am
this is a forum dedicated to options that will avoid the need for abortion,

ill start

the birth control pill,

it doesnt cause cancer, it doesnt cause an abortion, it does prevent pregnancy.

no unwanted pregnancy, no abortion

any objections?

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LifeNews.com (Feb. 28, 2004)
Posted by LindaBee2 on Mon Mar 1 at 02:47:am
Arizona Right to Know Abortion Bill Heads to Governor Napolitano

Phoenix, AZ (LifeNews.com) -- Legislation that would ensure women are fully informed about the risks, dangers, and alternatives associated with abortion has received final approval from the state legislature and now heads to Governor Janet Napolitano. She supports abortion, but has not indicated whether she will sign or veto the legislation. The state House voted 32-27-1 to approve the bill, which also provides women with information about the development of their unborn child. The state Senate previously approved the legislation by a 18-11 vote margin. The lack of two-thirds majorities in both chambers indicates that if Napolitano doesn't sign the bill, a veto will be very difficult to override. That's why pro-life groups are planning to flood her office will calls, letters and faxes. We call upon Gov. Napolitano to do the right thing to protect the women of Arizona and sign the informed consent bill into law," Len Munsil, President of The Center for Arizona Policy, said. But the chances of Napolitano signing the bill don't look good. ACTION: Contact Governor Napolitano about the Right to Know bill by calling her office at 1-800-253-0883.

http://www.lifenews.com/state411.html

Bush Administration Subpoenas More Partial-Birth Abortion Records

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The Justice Department has issued a subpoena for additional partial-birth abortion records in its quest to prove that partial-birth abortions are never medically necessary and that a Supreme Court-required health exception to the ban on partial-birth abortions is unneeded. The latest recipients of the subpoena request are a group of Planned Parenthood abortion businesses in six locations, including affiliates in Los Angeles, San Diego, New York, Washington, Kansas City and Pittsburgh. The Bush admin...

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Virginia Bill Protecting Women and Unborn Children...
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 28 at 01:45:am
Virginia Bill Protecting Women and Unborn Children From Violence Advances

Richmond, VA (LifeNews.com) -- A pro-life bill that would offer additional protection for pregnant women and their unborn children has received the final approval from the state legislature and now heads to pro-abortion Governor Mark Warner (D), who has not yet taken a position on the bill. The bill defines an unborn child as a person under law in cases where the baby is killed or injured as a result of an attack on a pregnant woman. It allows prosecutors to charge criminals with an additional crime for killing or injuring the unborn baby. The legislation passed by veto-proof margins and, if Warner vetoes it, pro-life lawmakers are expected to mount a campaign to override the veto.

http://www.lifenews.com/state404.html

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Third Hospital Files Motion to Quash Partial-Birth...
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 28 at 01:45:am
Third Hospital Files Motion to Quash Partial-Birth Abortion Records Subpoenas

Detroit, MI (LifeNews.com) -- The University of Michigan on Monday filed a motion on behalf of its medical center to stop the Bush administration from obtaining records of partial-birth abortions. The information would be used to defend the partial-birth abortion ban against three separate lawsuits filed by abortion advocates. That makes the hospital the third to resist the Justice Department's efforts. The Department of Justice has subpoenaed patient records from seven abortion practitioners and at least five hospitals. The Bush administration is not seeking to identify patients, but is looking to verify what pro-life groups and some abortion advocates have admitted -- that most partial-birth abortions occur on healthy women and healthy babies. The hospitals, and abortion advocates, say the patient information should be kept confidential. In the Michigan case, a University of Michigan medical center staff member is also a party in the pro-abortion suit. UM OBGYN Department Chairman Dr. Timothy Johnson joined the abortion practitioners in opposing the law, which argues the ban is unconstitutional because it does not include a health exception. However, the Bush administration is seeking the records to bolster its case that Johnson has no standing to participate in the lawsuit because neither he nor the University of Michigan medical center perform partial-birth abortions.

http://www.lifenews.com/nat348.html

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South Dakota Abortion Ban Gets Final Approval, Heads to...
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 28 at 01:43:am
South Dakota Abortion Ban Gets Final Approval, Heads to Governor

Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- The South Dakota legislature gave final approval to legislation that would ban most abortions, when the state House agreed with changes the state Senate made to the bill. Now the legislation heads to pro-life Governor Mike Rounds, who says he wants to review the legislation before saying whether he will sign it into law. "We'll sit down, look through the bill and make a decision as to whether we sign it or not sign it," Rounds said. "I've consistently said I don't commit to any particular bill until I've had a chance to see it when it comes to me." Some legislators are concerned the legislation is dead on arrival in the courts after Planned Parenthood files a lawsuit against it, and they are worried it will take as much as $1 million to pay for attorney fees to defend the law.

http://www.lifenews.com/state407.html

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Pro-Life Advocate Says Abortion Unfairly Targets the Black
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 28 at 01:42:am
Pro-Life Advocate Says Abortion Unfairly Targets the Black Community

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- In light of February's Black History Month, one pro-life advocate says more attention needs to be paid to how abortion exploits black women and unfairly targets the African-American community. "Abortion is the number-one killer of African Americans, killing more Black people than all other causes combined," Day Gardner, director, Black Americans for Life, said at a press conference last week. "By the end of this very day, 1,200 Black babies -- the babies that ensure our future -- will die," Gardner added. African Americans make up 13 percent of the population, yet African-American women have more than 35% of all abortions in the United States. The abortion rate of Black women is three times that of White women. Gardner said the most recent census shows that black Americans are not longer the largest minority group in the United States. She attributes that to the 14 million abortions of African-American children since Roe v. Wade. For years, pro-life groups have criticized the abortion businesses for sometimes locating their facilities in predominantly black communities.

http://www.lifenews.com/nat347.html

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Planned Parenthood Violated its Policies in Holly...
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 28 at 01:41:am
Planned Parenthood Violated its Policies in Holly Patterson's Abortion Death

Sacramento, CA (LifeNews.com) -- A report released Tuesday by the California Department of Health Services in their investigation into the death of Holly Patterson reveals that Planned Parenthood failed to follow its own internal policies for informing women on how to use the RU 486 abortion drug that was responsible for Holly's death. The state health agency said Planned Parenthood of Hayward did not have Patterson sign one of the three forms the abortion business says it normally requires women obtaining chemical abortions to sign. "There was no instruction on handwashing prior to the insertion or that the tablets should be inserted with a bare or gloved finger or if the fingernails should be short or free of nail polish. These are simple measures to prevent infection," the report indicated. Alameda County Coroner's report confirmed that the use of RU 486 resulted in an incomplete abortion that led to uterine infection and caused Holly's death.

http://www.lifenews.com/nat351.html

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Oklahoma Senate Turns Back Flawed Right to Know Abortion Law
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 28 at 01:40:am
Oklahoma Senate Turns Back Flawed Right to Know Abortion Law

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The Oklahoma state Senate has rejected the latest version of a bill requiring women to be offered certain information prior to an abortion. But an Oklahoma pro-life group said a careful analysis shows that the flawed bill would have had little impact. The state chairman for Oklahomans for Life, Tony Lauinger, wrote a letter to Senate members in which he said this particular "informed consent" measure is "meaningless." According to Oklahomans for Life, statistics from Planned Parenthood show that most abortions -- 99 percent -- are performed before 21 weeks of pregnancy. Lauinger has said his organization would consider a vote for the flawed legislative measure a pro-abortion vote if the legislation did not require women to be informed about fetal development for children less than 20 weeks old.

http://www.lifenews.com/state398.html

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Michigan House Fails to Override Granholm's Parental Consent
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 28 at 01:39:am
Michigan House Fails to Override Granholm's Parental Consent Veto

Lansing, MI (LifeNews.com) -- The Michigan state House failed to override Governor Jennifer Granholms veto of a pro-life bill that would have strengthened the parental consent law. House Speaker Rick Johnson said he will have another vote on the bill, but no specific date is set. Pro-life groups say the bill is needed to stop the judical bypass in the law from being abused. "According to the State Court Administrative Office, up to 800 bypasses are applied for each year and approximately 90% of those judicial bypass waivers are granted. In many instances, the judicial bypass system has become a rubber-stamp process," Kristen Hemker of Right to Life of Michigan told LifeNews.com. The judicial bypass is a Supreme Court-mandated aspect of the law, which has helped reduce teen abortions in Michigan by 55 percent so far, even with the problems.

http://www.lifenews.com/state406.html

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Kansas State House Committee Approves Abortion Facility Regu
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 28 at 01:38:am
Kansas State House Committee Approves Abortion Facility Regulations

Topeka, KS (LifeNews.com) -- A state House committee passed a pro-life bill setting health and safety standards for abortion facilities on to the full House Monday. The committee heard whistleblower testimony from a former employee at a Kansas City abortion facility. "Ruby," as the employee is called in the report, witnessed first-hand the lack of safe medical procedures at the abortion facility where she worked, including the use of dishwashers as sterilizers, lack of background checks and medical training for medical assistants, lack of such simple procedures as cleaning the table between abortions or monitoring vital signs of patients during or after the abortions, and the storage of aborted children placed in the same refrigerator as food.

http://www.lifenews.com/state403.html

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Tennessee Pro-Life Constitutional Amendment Weakened
Posted by LindaBee2 on Fri Feb 27 at 02:26:am
http://www.lifenews.com/state405.html

Tennessee Pro-Life Constitutional Amendment Weakened by Senate Panel

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
February 25, 2004

Nashville, TN (LifeNews.com) -- A state Senate committee weakened a pro-life measure that seeks to ammend Tennessee's state constitution to ensure that a privacy clause can't be used to declare an unlimited right to abortion and overturn pro-life legislation.

After an impassioned debate, members of the Senate Finance Committee amended the measure to cede authority on key abortion policy decisions back to the state courts.

Senator Roy Herron (D-Dresden) sponsored the amendment, which says, "Government shall not interfere with or prevent a woman from obtaining a medical procedure, including abortion, to protect her life or when she is the victim of incest or rape."

Chief Deputy Attorney General Andy Bennett, who unsuccessfully argued Planned Parenthood v. Sundquist before the Tennessee Supreme Court in 1999, said the ultimate result of the amendment was to restore a protected abortion right "under certain circumstances" that would likely be determined and defined by state courts.

Ed Albin of Tennesse Right to Life said his group was disappointed by the vote and said it was unnecessary to add rape or incest exceptions to the proposal.

"Such an amendment defeats the clear purpose of SJR 127 which is to restore to the people of Tennessee, through our elected officials, the right to determine the state's abortion policy rather than judges legislating such matters from the bench," Albin said.

Albin said that the original proposal allows the state legislature to pass policy related to abortion without the state Supreme Court striking it down based on the privacy clause. If members ...

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Tennessee Abortion Advocates Upset Groups With Specialty...
Posted by LindaBee2 on Fri Feb 27 at 02:25:am
http://www.lifenews.com/state397.html

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Tennessee Abortion Advocates Upset Groups With Specialty Plate Lawsuit

by Paul Nowak
LifeNews.com Staff Writer
February 23, 2004

Nashville, TN (LifeNews.com) -- In an attempt to halt the sales of "Choose Life" specialty license plates, the ACLU has filed a lawsuit that would shut down the entire specialty plate program in Tennessee and cut off $11.5 million in funding to non-profit organizations statewide. Their actions have upset numerous nonprofit groups in the state whose plates, and the donations they generate, are possibly in jeopardy.

One of those organizations, the Tennessee Arts Commission, receives about $3.3 million annually from specialty plates, which accounts for three-quarters of its grant budget - money used to fund arts programs statewide.

"It would be devastating to the non-profit arts community in Tennessee," Rich Boyd, executive director of the Arts Commission told LifeNews.com. Boyd added that his organization appreciates the funding from the plates, as "no one makes anyone buy a plate," unlike state sales, income, or property taxes.

Other groups don't appreciate the pro-abortion lawsuit either.

"It is a shame they chose to include the entire system when they have an issue with one plate," added Jim Hart, executive director of Friends of Great Smokey Mountains National Park, an organization that could lose as much as $600,000 in annual funding. "[The lawsuit] punishes several organizations that benefit from the program."

Currently, the legislature votes to approve specialty plates, of which there are now over 100. The ACLU...
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Court to Hear Case to Reopen Roe V. Wade
Posted by LindaBee2 on Fri Feb 27 at 02:11:am
NewsMax.Com

Court to Hear Case to Reopen Roe V. Wade

DALLAS -- A federal appeals court has agreed to hear a request from the woman formerly known as "Jane Roe" to reconsider the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade that legalized abortion.

Norma McCorvey, who joined with anti-abortion activists nearly 10 years ago, is seeking to have the decision overturned, citing what she says is more than 30 years of evidence that abortions are psychologically harmful to women.

A federal district judge threw out her initial request in June, saying it was not made within a reasonable time. But the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has agreed to hear McCorvey's arguments March 2.

"It's something that I've wanted ever since Day One, and it's happening," McCorvey said from her Dallas home.

Dallas County District Attorney Bill Hill, whose predecessor Henry Wade who was named in the original lawsuit, has not filed a response to McCorvey's appeal. That may put the appeals court in the unusual position of hearing arguments from only one side.

Wade was named in the original case because he was charged with enforcing the Texas law that prevented McCorvey from having an abortion. Hill's office has argued that since that law no longer exists, Hill has no authority to prosecute and should not be sued.

More than 20 Texas law school professors concerned about an unbalanced hearing filed a brief Wednesday asking to be allowed to argue the other side of the case.

"It's important that the court hear from somebody representing the position that the district court took, which I think is clearly right," said David Schenck, a lawyer representing the professors. "At this point, the case is moot, and she's presenting at best a political question."

The Supreme Court decision came after McCorvey had her b...

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Responses by anonymous{sick}
Posted by Omega on Thu Feb 19 at 12:02:pm
I read the responses posted by anonymous at http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php {sick}and frankly it disgusts me how someone can be that apathetic.


He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love

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LifeNews.com
Posted by LindaBee2 on Tue Feb 17 at 02:41:am
After Stem Cell Research Claims, Calls for Human Cloning Ban Resume
Washington, DC

(LifeNews.com) -- Following claims made by a team of South Korean researchers who say they have successfully extracted stem cells from cloned human embryos, pro-life groups are stepping up the pressure on Congress to pass a complete ban on both forms of human cloning. The House of Representatives has passed a pro-life bill that would ban both human cloning for reproductive as well as research purposes. However, the Senate has been caught up in a debate between pro-life lawmakers who favor the total ban and pro-cloning lawmakers who are backing "clone and kill" legislation that would ban reproductive cloning but allow human embryos to be cloned and kill for experiments. Rep. Chris Smith (R) of New Jersey said a complete ban on all forms of human cloning is needed now. He also urged the United Nations to adopt a cloning ban as well, where a resolution to craft one has been postponed for one year. "Senator Hatch and others in the U.S. Senate need to stop blocking a total ban on human cloning so we can proceed to protect the dignity of human life," Congressman Smith said. "We also need an international ban on human cloning." Senator Sam Brownback (R) of Kansas, the sponsor of the total cloning ban in the Senate, said it's time for lawmakers to act and approve his legislation.

Cord Blood Stem Cells Prove Successful in Treating Heart Damage
Durham, NC

(LifeNews.com) -- While researchers in South Korea tout the potential success that could be gained from the use of embryonic stem cells, scientists at Duke University have concluded studies showing that adult stem cells from umbilical cord blood can rebuild damaged heart tissue. The Duke study proves for the first time that adult stem cells enter damaged heart tissue and rebuild it to prevent further damage. Umbilical cord blood stem cells have long been successful in treating ...

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ACLU/Doctors Challenge Partial Birth Abortion Ban
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sun Feb 15 at 12:43:am
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/feb/04021207.html

ACLU/Doctors Challenge Partial Birth Abortion Ban

Judge Stymies U.S. Justice Department Bid to Argue that the 'Health' of Women was Never an Issue

CHICAGO, February 12, 2004 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A US federal judge in Chicago has restricted the federal Justice Department's access to medical records in Illinois which it requested in its bid to defend the partial birth abortion ban. The Judge and hospitals cite a breach of patient confidentiality as the issue.

The American Civil Liberties Union and a group of Doctors is suing the federal Justice Department over charges that the partial birth abortion ban implemented late last year is unconstitutional. The group argues that the ban does not allow an exception for the procedure "if it is needed to protect the mother's life."

The US Department of Justice seeks to determine if the procedure was necessary to save the lives of the women who had the partial birth abortions performed at the hands of the doctors involved in the case.

The US Department of Justice has subpoenaed the medical records of the patients of the seven doctors involved in the suit. U.S. Chief District Judge Charles P. Kocoras has denied the request, despite the assurance from the Justice Department that names and any other identifying information could be withheld. Officials said that government lawyers commonly subpoena medical records with names and other identifying information withheld for other types of cases, such as fraud.

On the other hand, U.S. District Judge Richard Casey, who is hearing the case in New York, was frustrated by the lack of cooperation from the hospitals. An attorney for the plaintiffs told Judge Casey that the doctors cannot force hospitals to surrender their records, to which Judge...

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Florida Gov. Wants Pro-Life Law Allowing Guardians
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 14 at 12:48:am
http://www.lifenews.com/state341.html

Florida Gov. Wants Pro-Life Law Allowing Guardians for Unborn Children

by Paul Nowak
LifeNews.com Staff Writer
January 29, 2004

Tallahassee, FL (LifeNews.com) -- Governor Jeb Bush will seek to have a law granting legal guardians for unborn children of mentally disabled women unable to make decisions for themselves.

"It is appropriate and necessary to have guardians for unborn children in these specific kinds of cases," Bush spokesman Jacob DiPietre said. "The governor is considering legislative options. That could include a bill. That could include something else."

The idea to seek legislative options follows the decision of Jennifer Wixstrom not to appeal her attempt to become the guardian of J.D.S.'s unborn child. J.D.S., who became pregnant from rape, suffers from severe retardation, cerebral palsy and autism, although her daughter was born healthy in August.

"In the case of a mom who has no capability of making a decision for herself, who has a guardian, there could be compelling or competing interests between an unborn child and a developmentally disabled mom," Bush said. "And in those cases I think it's appropriate to give a judge the possibility of having a separate guardian. That's all this is about."

Senate President Jim King (R-Jacksonville) said he is "very reluctant" to consider such legislation.

"I think the courts already decided on that," King said, referring to the 1989 Florida Supreme court ruling that said declaring a guardian for the unborn was improper. "I didn't rule it out. I would be a very reluctant participant."

This would be the second time Gov. Bush has ventured to actively intervene on life issues in recent months. Last October, he issued an executive order to re-inser...

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News from LifeNews.Com
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Feb 7 at 01:24:am
All of these were sent to me in a LifeNews.com newsletter.

Quote:
Wesley Clark Says He Doesn't "Believe in Abortion," Then Backpeddles

Chattanooga, TN (LifeNews.com) -- Pro-abortion Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark is under fire again for his comments on abortion and subsequent backpedaling. While campaigning in Tennessee on Wednesday, Clark told a voter, "What you've got to do is you really have got to work with families and you really got to help people understand what their choices are and not do the wrong thing because I don't believe in abortion."

On Thursday, Clark clarified his position with reporters traveling with his campaign. "I would hope that [abortion] would be done only on rare occasions, but it's a woman's right to choose. It's a private matter and I support the Supreme Court. I support Roe v. Wade. And I support a woman's right to choose,'' the Clark told reporters.

Brian Harris of Tennessee Right to Life isn't surprised at the turn of events. "As he travels across rural Tennessee, there is no doubt that Clark will be encountering many pro-life Democrats who want to know his true position on human life," Harris told LifeNews.com.

Carol Tobias, the National Right to Life PAC director told LifeNews.com that Clark is "awkwardly trying to find the right words to look like a 'moderate' on abortion. However, saying he "doesn't believe in abortion" won't fool pro-life voters should he win the nomination.


Now, either you believe in abortion or you don't. You can't say, "I don't believe in abortion," and then turn around and say, "But I support the Roe v. Wade decision," because that decision led up to the legalization of the murder of unb...

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Do you know your ABC's?
Posted by Alpha on Thu Jan 15 at 06:53:am
Abortion
Breast
Cancer
Syndrome

Quote:
Certainly one of the definitive studies was by H. L. Howe. Her study was done in upstate New York using official statistics from the New York State Health Department. This was an excellent study by epidemiologic standards and was not subject to any kind of recall memory bias from people asked in questionnaires. It used only hard data. She investigated all the women in this area who developed breast cancer under age 40 and checked to see whether or not they had had abortions. The conclusion was that women who had aborted their first pregnancy had a 1.7 times increased risk of breast cancer. Those who had gone on to abort their second and/or third pregnancy had a 4.0 times increased risk. Howe HL, Senie RT, Bzduch H, Herzfeld P (1989) et al., Int. J. Epidemiol. 18:3004.

Another was in Washington State: Few studies on this issue receive media attention. This went worldwide and broke the defacto embargo on reporting the abortionbreast cancer link. Janet Daling did a very professional study that could not be discounted. It found:

- An induced abortion raises a woman’s chance of getting breast cancer before age 45 by 50%. If done before age 18, it increases 150%; if after age 30, it’s up 110%.

- A woman with a family member with breast cancer who had her first abortion after 30 years increased her risk 270%.

- All 12 women in the study with a family history of breast cancer, who aborted before age 18 — all 12 — got breast cancer before age 45. J. Daling, Risk of Breast Cancer Among You...
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Suspect in pregnant woman's slaying jailed
Posted by LindaBee2 on Thu Jan 1 at 04:19:am
www1.chinadaily.com.cn/en/doc/2003-12/30/content_294647.htm

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Suspect in pregnant woman's slaying jailed
( 2003-12-30 17:30) (CNN.com)

A woman who had convinced her husband she was pregnant -- and was even thrown a baby shower -- killed a pregnant acquaintance and cut the fetus from her womb, authorities said Monday.

Effie Goodson, 37, faces two first-degree murder charges and a kidnapping count in the slaying of Carolyn Simpson, 21, who was six months pregnant, and the fetus.

A hunter found Simpson's body in a field near Lamar, about 100 miles from Oklahoma City, on Friday. She had been shot in the head, authorities said.

Simpson was last seen on December 22, leaving a tribal casino in Okemah where she worked and Goodson was a patron, Sheriff Houston Yeager said. Investigators believe the two left the casino together.

The next day, Goodson brought a dead fetus that had reached six months gestation to a Holdenville hospital. Goodson claimed to be the mother, but investigators determined she could not have given birth, and she was taken into custody, authorities said.

Goodson had falsely told several people that she was pregnant, going back as far as 10 months, Yeager said. Her husband believed she was expecting, and a shower was thrown for her, he said.

"I think anybody would agree she wanted a baby," Yeager said. "She already had baby items. She was really set up for a baby."

However, investigators have not yet settled on a motive in the slaying, the sheriff said. "We've got a few more questions we haven't got answered yet," he said.

Goodson and Simpson had known each other for about a month after being introduced by fam...
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ACLU seeks order to fund &#8216;medically necessary&
Posted by LindaBee2 on Thu Dec 18 at 02:55:am
www.citizenonline.net/citizen/archive/article3DA3D5C089B04F60A67050FFEDA07CF2.asp

Quote:
ACLU seeks order to fund ‘medically necessary’ abortions under Medicaid
By LOUISE CHU

ATLANTA (AP) - Clinics went to court Tuesday seeking to allow women to have Medicaid-funded abortions in Georgia to end pregnancies that are threatening their health.

Attorneys representing the Feminist Women's Health Center, Planned Parenthood of Georgia and clinics around the state asked for a temporary restraining order against Georgia's current statute that allows Medicaid to pay for abortions only if the pregnancy is life-threatening or a result of rape or incest.

The clinics claim that denying funds to a low-income woman whose pregnancy was a danger to her health - even if not necessarily life-threatening - would be violating her rights of privacy and equal protection guaranteed by the Georgia Constitution.

The hearing by Judge M. Gino Brogdon in Fulton County Superior Court focused on the proposed need for an immediate injunction.

Dozens of women may be at risk if they don't have an abortion, said Louise Melling, an attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union's Reproductive Rights Project, which represented the clinics.

"‘Women like that shouldn't have to wait,’" she said. "‘Their harm is inevitable."’

Assistant Attorney General Mark Cicero said there was no proof of an emergency that would warrant immediate action.

One problem, the s...

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Whatever happened...
Posted by LindaBee2 on Wed Dec 17 at 02:49:am
...to practicing abstinence? I mean, I understand that people are tempted to go all the way with someone before they're married. People are tempted to do things all the time. But what's wrong with waiting until you're married? What's so difficult about avoiding giving into that temptation? Then, at least, you wouldn't willfully put yourself in a situation where you believe that abortion is the only way out.

Now, regarding women who've been raped: I sympathize with them. Rape is a horrible, degrading thing to go through, and I pray I'll never have to go through it. People have argued that if a rape victim continues her pregnancy, she'll be constantly reminded of what happened to her. That is a pathetic argument, because the woman would be reminded of the attack, even if she wasn't impregnated by her attacker.

Rape and carelessness are not valid reasons to support the malicious murder of an innocent child. Remember: the child is incapable of choosing who its parents are. And just because the unborn child does not have a voice, does not mean that it is not a human being. I believe that all things happen for a reason. No, God did not intend for you to have sex before you're married, and He definitely did not intend for you to be raped. However, do you honestly believe that He would support the murder of something that He helped create. Remember: we are all descendants of Adam and Eve, who were created by God Himself. And by murdering your unborn child, you are - in essence - murdering a part of God.

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You have a forum to morn aborted babies...
Posted by miracleshappen on Tue Dec 16 at 11:07:pm
so why don't you have a forum to morn the babies that are lost that are wanted and loved?? Why is it that these babies and the familes who need the support are forgotten??

I am not trying to be a jerk, I visit alot of boards and this is one thing that always gets me. Morning of unwanted babies, but no support for those who lose the babies they want so badly.

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Pro-Abortion Memo Reveals Focus on Illegal Abortion Death...
Posted by LindaBee2 on Tue Dec 16 at 01:43:am
lifenews.com/nat245.html

Quote:
Pro-Abortion Memo Reveals Focus on Illegal Abortion Death Myths

by Steven Ertelt
LifeNews.com Editor
December 15, 2003

New York, NY (LifeNews.com) -- When abortion advocates in the United States sought to engender emotional support for overturning laws against abortion, they began citing bogus statistics claiming thousands of women were dying annually as a result of illegal abortions. While it has been proven those numbers were fabricated, that hasn't stopped pro-abortion groups from falsifying illegal abortion death statistics worldwide.

In the internal strategy document obtained by the Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute earlier this month, the Center for Reproductive Rights argues that focusing on the number of deaths from illegal abortions could help secure a worldwide right to abortion.

"There is no binding norm that recognizes women's right to terminate a pregnancy," the pro-abortion law firm acknowledges. "To argue that such a right exists, we have focused on ... rights to life and health."

"[T]he ascertation with the widest international acceptance is that a women's right to be free from unsafe abortion is grounded in her rights to life and health," the document continues. "Because unsafe abortion is responsible for 78,000 deaths each year and hundreds of thousands of disabilities, criminalization of abortion clearly harms women's life and health."

However, Dr. Randy O'Bannon, Education Director for National Right to Life says this figure is likely inflated and takes away the argument that illegal abortion deaths should necessitate making abortion legal worldwide.

CRR's figure of 78,000 illegal abortion death...
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Returning to partial-birth abortion
Posted by LindaBee2 on Sat Dec 13 at 01:12:am
www.townonline.com/lynnfield/news/opinion/nss_colnssitting12122003.htm

Quote:
Returning to partial-birth abortion

John J. Kwiatek / Sitting In
Friday, December 12, 2003

I received a letter this week from a reader of my past commentaries asking why I have been so silent lately about two big issues which have drawn much attention by the media. He asked me why there hasn't been more outcry by Roman Catholics about same-sex marriage and partial birth abortion? He questioned the silence of folks like myself in the face of judicial overreaching and interference in these matters. I had no good answer to give. I have to admit that I have been silent for too long and so I'll try again.

Consider the quantum leap the courts have taken in justifying same-sex marriage and partial birth abortion. What they propose is greater weight to privacy and less to openness to the propagation of human life. Since when has truth been served by fostering untruth through judicial activism? Today, I hope to restate my objection to abortion on demand and, if permitted to do so by this paper, in the near future, I will address same-sex "marriage."

Consider the "truths" and "choices" asserted by the pro-abortion lobby and their allies in the judiciary. They tell us that a woman has "a right to choose," but to choose what? A fetus is called an "appendage of the mother" over which she has a life and death right to decide, but can a female who bears a son have a male appendage?

They tell us that partial birth abortion should be allowed in cases where the life and health of the mother is at risk, but if the mother's life ...
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Abortion rights supporters to launch T-V ad attacking Bush
Posted by LindaBee2 on Wed Nov 5 at 03:04:am
www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=1511227

Quote:
Abortion rights supporters to launch T-V ad attacking Bush

Washington-AP -- Even as he signs into law a ban on a late-term abortion procedure, President Bush will be coming under attack in a T-V ad from an abortion rights group.

Bush will be signing tomorrow the legislation banning what critics call "partial birth" abortion. It's the first federal restriction on a woman's legal right to abortion.

A T-V ad will start airing tomorrow, criticizing Bush for signing the bill. The NARAL Pro-Choice America Foundation -- sponsor of the ad -- says the ban violates the privacy of the doctor-patient relationship.

NARAL will spend nearly a half (m) million dollars to show the ad in the key early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire, as well as in Washington D-C.

The ad portrays the bill as Bush's first step toward overturning the landmark Roe-versus-Wade decision.

Copyright 2003 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


Good luck, Bush! You'll have my vote in the '04 election. It's so sad that this society has become one that supports the murder of defenseless children. And ironically, these are probably people who protest whenever a brutal serial killer is executed.

BTW, if you'd like to read my opinion regarding the P.B.A. procedure, check out the link that...

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Please Mommy, Please
Posted by webmaster on Tue Nov 4 at 09:39:pm
"Please Mommy, Please" by Northcoast Bluegrass

Album info.
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/cds/27/27318.html

Artist info.
http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/15/northcost_bluegrass.html

Listen it here, number 14 today was 23 yesterday.
http://genres.mp3.com/download_charts/country/spiritual_country/christian_country/

I have emailed the group and asked if I could use the song on the Abortion Webages.

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Senate approves partial-birth abortion ban
Posted by LindaBee2 on Thu Oct 23 at 04:06:am
www.statenews.com/article.phtml?pk=20192

Quote:
Senate approves partial-birth abortion ban

By DON JORDAN

The State News

A bill restricting partial-birth abortions was approved by the U.S. Senate on Tuesday, prompting mixed reactions from local politicians and activists.

The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003 was approved in a 64-34 vote.

It now heads to President Bush, who has said he's eager to sign the bill. His signature would make it federal law.

"It deals with the most gruesome form of abortion," said U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Brighton. "It is a terrible procedure, and I think a civilized nation could do much better."

The bill defines partial-birth abortion as a procedure in which the person performing the abortion "delivers a living fetus until É the entire fetal head is outside the body of the mother É or any part of the fetal trunk past the navel is outside the body of the mother, for the purpose of performing an overt act that the person knows will kill the partially delivered living fetus."

The bill allows partial-birth abortions necessary to protect a mother whose life is endangered by her pregnancy.

A similar state bill was vetoed by Gov. Jennifer Granholm early this month. The bill, called the Legal Birth Definition Act, defines the moment a person is legally born as when any part of the fetus is expelled from a woman's body.

Sue Wagner, executive director of Planned Parenthood Advocates of Michigan, said the federal bi...

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Convicted baby murderer may go free!
Posted by LindaBee2 on Fri Oct 10 at 02:57:am
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=34900

Quote:
When a crying baby
is not 'alive'

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted: October 3, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern


By Jill Stanek
© 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

A baby's cry is not necessarily proof of life.

So concluded Illinois Circuit Court Judge Karen Thompson last November when she acquitted a mother previously convicted in two prior trials of murdering her newborn daughter.

Thus goes the latest of increasingly stretched decisions by judges nationwide to accommodate legalized abortion – first of unborn babies, then of partially delivered babies, and now of babies who are perhaps delivered but who have not "established a separate and independent life," which was required of babies by Thompson in her reversal.

At question is whether a six-pound, 19-inch baby girl was "completely separated" at delivery when her mother, Elizabeth Ehlert, killed her.

Cook County State's Attorney Dick Devine has now asked the Illinois Supreme Court to intervene, arguing that "complete separation" would mean the umbilical cord must be cut.

"If Elizabeth Ehlert's murder conviction is wiped out, Illinois' courts will have provided homicidal mothers a how-to-guide for getting away with killing their babies," the Daily Herald reported prosecutors told the Illinois Supreme Court.

On Aug. 21, 1990, Ehlert delivered her daughter in her bedroom a...

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Media Bias? You mean, it EXISTS? NOOOO!
Posted by LindaBee2 on Wed Sep 17 at 02:30:am
http://www.family.org/cforum/fnif/news/a0027594.cfm

Quote:
Media Refuse to Cover 'Doe' Appeal
By Stuart Shepard, correspondent


It's not often that the principal in a court case tries to overturn the very ruling she sought. It has happened twice in the last month, but a lot of people didn't see, hear or read about it because the issue is abortion.

The woman whose 1970s-era Supreme Court case led to abortion on demand throughout all nine months of pregnancy recently filed suit to overturn that decision. Thanks to a suspicious lack of media coverage, though, most of the nation hasn't heard anything about it.

Doe v. Bolton led to abortion on demand and partial-birth abortion. Last week, the "Jane Doe" in that case, Sandra Cano, sued to overturn the decision, but the news media largely ignored it. Her attorney, Allan Parker, said practically no one — "less than four or five" — called about the story.

The announcement came on the heels of a similar case filed by Norma McCorvey, "Jane Roe" of Roe v. Wade.

"I believe it's incredibly important that the two women who brought abortion to America are now both convinced their decisions were unjust, immoral and wrong for women," Parker said. "Maybe that's what the media doesn't want America to know."

Susan Renne Mosely, a spokeswoman for the group Silent No More, was even more pointed: "(The media) ignore Doe v. Bolton, they ignore Roe v. Wade — and the filing to overturn it — because they will have to acknowledge that abortion hurts women."

Wendy Wright, senior policy director at Concerned Women for Americ...
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New sonogram invented by a doctor
Posted by webmaster on Tue Sep 16 at 07:53:pm
I was leaving for work monday morning and caught something on NBC news that brought tears. It was a new sonogram invented by a doctor somewhere in the US. It shows the baby clearly and I mean clearly. The baby yawned and even smiled while I was watching. He was only about 5 months I think.

Did anybody else see it or know more about it?

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Do you want to know Jesus?
Posted by Alpha on Sat Aug 30 at 06:39:am
If you want to know Jesus, visit this site: http://www.freejesus.net/salvation.php

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Abortion Related Deaths/Abortion Risks
Posted by LindaBee2 on Mon Jul 7 at 03:07:am
ABORTION-RELATED DEATHS
www.afterabortion.org/PAR/V8/n2/abortiondeaths.html

ABORTION RISKS
www.afterabortion.org/physica.html

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Partial-birth Abortion?
Posted by Anonymous on Wed Jun 25 at 02:45:pm
Just curious your opinion on the matter. I can sort of understand not wanting to think about or allow abortions past the second trimester, but if the baby is already dead and there is only three options available for the mother and the doctor: 1) the partial gross abortion, 2) surgery (not a c-section because the baby has already dropped into the birth canal), which is complicated and my (probably would) prevent the mother from future pregnancys, and 3) breaking her hips because the babys head is to large to allow a normal pregnancy (remember this is NOT a normal pregnancy and the baby might have had a defect such as excess fluid in the head, which caused the eventual death of the baby), this will of couse cause the mother permanate physical disabilities.
Under this condition, i dont understand why anyone would want to ban the 1) procedure. Its the most humane, leave the leaving alone, scar the dead to prolong the health and future happyness of the living.
This is what was banned by congress recently. Understanding your pro-life stance, you MUST be for the partial birth abortion, its the only way to allow this women to do what God wanted, live happy and have children.

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Good luck to Norma McCorvey!
Posted by LindaBee2 on Wed Jun 18 at 01:26:am
If you don't know who Norma is, visit this link. It explains everything. Her past as a pro-choicer, and her current life as a born-again Christian and a pro-lifer.

http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/6110727.htm

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G-D CREATED THE BABY.
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Jun 14 at 03:36:pm


G-D=GOD

G-D created the aborted child for HIM.

G-D created YOU for HIM. YOU are not here to do as you will. YOU do the "WILL" of FATHER G-D.

He wanted the child to have life on earth.

By Destroying G-D's creation, YOU are saying YOU are G-D.

NO ONE MAN OR WOMAN is G-D.

Satan is trying to be G-D.

Satan's eternal home is "HELL", because he "CHOSE" to do things his way, and G-D says anyone who challenges the Potter (we are the clay) will wish they were never born.

These are not my words.

But the Almighty FATHER IN HEAVEN.

NO ONE MAN OR WOMAN WILL GO UNPUNISHED FOR SINS THAT G-D FORBIDS.

G-D says he is allowing people to do as they will now, because he is getting Ready for his "DAY OF WRATH"

AND WILL TAKE CARE OF THOSE WHO DID THINGS AGAINST HIM.

GIVE YOUR LIFE TO FATHER G-D TODAY IN "KING JESUS" NAME AND YOU WILL BE VERY HAPPY YOU DID.

I AM.


LOVE YOU
SISTER LJ


MORE IMPORTANTLY G-D LOVES YOU!

HE LOVES YOU MUCH MORE!

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To the babies I never held memorial page.
Posted by webmaster on Thu Jun 12 at 09:13:pm
Email I received.

Quote:
I regret the abortion I had and after so many years finally named those babies.

http://www.johnandbreanna.com/mookie/memorial.html

I hope that someone reads my page and makes a better CHOICE than I made

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HUH?!
Posted by LindaBee2 on Thu Jun 12 at 02:19:am
Okay. I'm very confused. The state of California has a law that protects a woman's right to have an abortion. And yet, at the same time, there's a law that states if someone murders a pregnant woman - thereby killing her unborn baby - they can be tried and convicted of a double homicide.

Am I the only one who's really confused? By stating that the person (In this case, Scott Peterson) who murdered a pregnant woman (Laci Peterson) also murdered her child (Conner Peterson)...isn't that admitting that the child is a living human being?

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The goofy world of Ed Harris
Posted by LindaBee2 on Thu Jun 12 at 02:07:am
Found this when I visited http://www.dadi.org/quesmhoo.htm

Quote:
Actor Questions Bush's Manhood for Opposing Abortion
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
January 22, 2003

Washington (CNSNews.com) - A veteran Hollywood actor has questioned President's Bush's manhood because of the president's support for restrictions on abortion.

Oscar nominated actor Ed Harris told a crowd of abortion rights activists in Washington Tuesday night that Bush failed to meet the criteria for the "definition of a man" because of his failure to support abortion rights.

"Being a man, I have got to say that we got this guy in the White House who thinks he is a man, who projects himself as a man because he has a certain masculinity. He's a good old boy, he used to drink, and he knows how to shoot a gun and how to drive a pickup truck. That is not the definition of a man, God dammit!" Harris said to wild applause.

At the same gathering, actress Kathleen Turner said the political power shift to the GOP in last fall's mid-term elections "scares the hell out of me."

NARAL Pro-Choice America's 30th Anniversary of Roe v. Wade at the Washington Omni Shoreham Hotel was scheduled to raise half a million dollars for the group, according to organizers. The event also featured the Democrats' six declared presidential hopefuls.

Harris, in an interview with CNSNews.com, said he believes it would be a "catastrophe" if the U.S. Supreme Court overturns the Roe v. Wade ruling that legalized abortion 30 years ago.

Harris, the star of films such as "The Right Stuff," "Apollo 13," "A Beautiful Mind,"and the newly rele...
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My abortion
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Jun 7 at 01:50:pm
I found out I was pregnant late on in the pregnancy. I had split up with my b/f a few weeks earlier. I already have a child. I faced the prospect of raising 2 children alone at the age of 26. i contacted my ex.... He was very sympathetic but realised that having a child was not an option. Our relationship had been in trouble for a while, we didn't want a child growing up from a split family.

So we chose the agonising decision to have an abortion. And let me tell you it was agonising. This baby (James) was loved and wanted so so much. I just had to think practical, I couldn't afford him, couldn't financially look after him and didn't want him to have no father.

I had the abortion at 22 weeks. I will never to this day forgive myself. I got to hold my baby afterwards and now know what a terrible terrible mistake I made. I cry most days fro my baby. But like most women, I know I cannot turn the clock back, no matter how much I want to... This is why I write today, to ask you all to stop hurting women of abortion. They need understanding and support not to be criticised and abused, by people who don't understand.

Not a day goes by where I will ever forget what Ive done. So I don't need people reminding me of the biggest mistake Ive made in my life. At the end of the day we are only human, and humans DO make mistakes...

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New ban on Partial birth abortion?
Posted by Crystal on Thu Jun 5 at 03:45:pm
So the news says it could very well pass a ban on partial birth abortion.
True i Support womans rights to chose but I have been in support of baning this type of abortion since I first learned of it a few years ago.

For those of you who dont know what a partial birth abortion is its defined as an abortion done past the 24th week of pregnancy where the infant is partly extracted from the mothers body except for the head and a tube is inserted to vacume the brain out of the skull.

To put time line terms in clearly.
24 weeks is the accepted norm for a viable fetus in other words able to live outside the mothers body.
I feel that once a unborn child no longer has need for the mothers body to survive then it is not longer a matter of a womans rights.
but a matter of a womans right AND a infants right.
Kudos to this bill and a big hopes in it passing as law.

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Abortion
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Apr 12 at 01:03:am
Tonight I talked to a girl on the phone that I used to have relations with before moving out of her state. She had been trying to get in touch with me, and aborted my baby, after not having any luck contacting me. I am completely torn up over it. Mental chaos ever since I got this news (about 2 hours ago). I used to think I was pro-choice, until it came down to my child, that never got a chance. Now I am hurt to the bone, and can't understand how anyone can abort by choice. I will never recover from this.

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Women's Right to Know Bill
Posted by Anonymous on Wed Apr 9 at 12:11:pm
I am a 20-year-old college student and I would like to know how you feel about the Women's Right to Know Bill. It is a bill being discussed in my state and it is very controversial. Basically, this bill sponsors a 24-hour waiting period for a woman to have an abortion, a time in which she is given information about the medical risks of abortion and the age of her unborn child, and it also provides the woman with alternatives to abortion and her right to view pictures of fetal development of the age of her child. If you could leave your comments/opinions, etc. I would greatly appreciate it! Thanks.

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Just a ball of cells in the first trimester?
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Mar 15 at 10:19:pm
This is an abortion at 10 weeks.


More aborted babies at 10 weeks.


What's left- 10 weeks



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More pictures of aborted babies
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Mar 15 at 10:11:pm
Here are more pictures of babies for your website. I hope this killing stops soon.








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Quotes from Abortionists (note to those who debate online)
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Mar 15 at 09:58:pm
In many online forums you aren't allowed to post pictures, but you can post quotes. These are stories straight from the horse's mouth about abortion...abortionists and clinic workers talking about what they do. All of these sources are nonbiased or pro-choice.

Wendy Simonds, a pro-choice feminist, wrote a book on life in an abortion clinic and even included a chapter describing how the clinic workers foiled the awful 'antis' that came to picket their clinic. But she also has a chapter about how the clinic workers dealt with fetal remains:

From "Abortion at Work: Ideology and Practice in a Feminist Clinic" by Wendy Simonds. New Brunswick: Rutgers University Press, 1996

Quotes from clinic employees:

"You're going from dealing with people to dealing with what most people here at the Center consider a real hurdle, to do sterile room, because you have to deal with the actual abortion tissue. And for some people, that's really hard. They can be abstractly in favor of abortion rights, but they sure don't want to see what an eighteen-week abortion looks like."

"It's just- I mean it looks like a baby. It looks like a baby. And especially if you get one that comes out, that's not piecemeal. And you know, I saw this one, and it had its fingers in its mouth...it makes me really sad that that had to happen, you know, but it doesn't change my mind. It's just hard. And it makes me just sort of stop and feel sad about it, the whole necessity of it. And also....it's very warm when it comes into the sterile room because it's been in the mother's stomach. It feels like flesh, you know..."

"It's going to be weird now because you're going to see the sono. You're going to see the heart beating- little hearts, you know- and then, all of a sudden, you're going to put his cardiac medicine in it to make it stop- to kill it. So you're going to see the exact moment when you kill the fetus. ...

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sounds like to me
Posted by Anonymous on Wed Feb 12 at 03:48:am
everyone here is an extremist, and dont listen to the other side

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what is our choice
Posted by Anonymous on Wed Feb 12 at 03:20:am
what should we do, pro-life or pro-abortion, both have ups and downs morals and probably both have immorals, and that is not for me to decide. To support the pro-life first, we are letting possible life to live here on earth and taking a possible life seems ill. Pro-choice helps eliminate the possiblility of world hunger and possible social order in a somewhat or full communistic way. Pro-life would save these lives and the possibility that we would comeup with something to eliminate those possibilities. For pro-choice, first off it is stated that if everyone in the world would group together they would not completely fill the state of Texas, and this is true, however if you count all the houses, buildings, airports, sea ports, roads it would more than fill the United States, and that doesnt include the need for trees that help produce oxygen for us to breathe (I say trees because they are the biggest fundamental force for it), for the pro-lifers the possibility of coming up with a solution to these potential problems, such as having people live in the more barren areas so the wetter areas are designated for crop growth. But with research looking into more possibilties at the same time as this solution would eventually come to an end. And maybe with science progressing as it is, it may eliminate the need for control like this. The downs, Pro-choice would eventually become in some cases forced-abortion, as with pro-life, a possibility would be to eliminate the weak in society, such as the elderly, terminally ill, mentally ill, repeated offenders, lottery-picked, low-end income or other areas of termination like an option death (euthanasia), pretty much the burden on society except for euthanasia and the lottery-picked. I for one would hate to be the one to make the choice, I think much research should be made and probably with some haste, but if all-else fails, I would probably be more pro-life and let euthanasia be an option and forced death, dont worry I w...

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Just because most of us are parents.
Posted by Anonymous on Sun Feb 9 at 06:26:pm
I wanted to put this up here just in case you havent seen it.
Please follow the links to the offical sites if your in doubt or have questions.
I know this board is about abortions but since many of us have children I wanted to go on and post this here just in case some of you havent heard of the recall.
Please feel free to deleate the thread if its not appropite here.

(this is copied from my e mail)


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>
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>
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>
>
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>Please read this CAREFULLY. Also, please pass this on to everyone you
>know.
>
>STOP TAKING anything containing this ingredient. It
>has been linked to increased hemorrhagic stroke (bleeding in brain)
>among women ages 18-49 in the three days after starting use of
>medication. Problems were not found in men, but the FDA recommended
>that everyone (even children) seek alternative medicine.
>
>The following medications contain Phenylpropanolamine:
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ABORTION PICTURES
Posted by Anonymous on Fri Jan 31 at 01:45:pm
HELLO, I AM A STUDENT AT WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN ACADEMY.
WE HAVE A ASSIGNMENT TO DO A PROJECT, I AM DOING MINE ON ABORTION AND NEED TO KNOW IF I MAY USE SOME OF YOUR ABORTION PICTURES FROM YOUR WEBSITE. I AM TRYING TO SHOW EVERYONE IN MY CLASS HOW STRONGLY I DISLIKE ABORTION AND I THINK YOUR PICTURES WOULD HELP A LOT. PLEASE E-MAIL ME BACK AT GOBSTOPER9@AOL.COM

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What to make of these "church-and-state, religious type
Posted by Anonymous on Tue Jan 28 at 03:29:pm
Who hold high positions in churches, claim they don't "like" abortion but "respect" the government to "stay out of women's bodies". Spineless would be a good starting word. Deep inside they don't believe abortion is murder and that it's just some "party line" they find themselves stuck in. I really wish I could wipe the smiles off their faces after they discard their "pro-life" belief once the coast is clear.

Kind of like a politician who pretends to stand for something, but only because they have to preserve their "darn" principles.

Abortion is murder and it's not some stance you jump on when the season is right.

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Wish to have a better understanding.
Posted by Anonymous on Tue Jan 28 at 11:23:am
Now please I understand fully this is a very touchy subject and the word touchy dosnt even begin to describe it.
Fist off I wish to say I am not Pro Life in the sence of against abortion.
I AM Pro life for all living creatures.
Now you may ask what the heck is she talking about??
Let me clarify myself then, I'm a 26 year old Female with 3 children.
Why am I not agasint abortion?
I will answer that after I tell you about myself its a long story so please grab a glass of milk.

I was born to a woman who already had 4 other children and worked the streets for a living.
Child protective services took 4 of us away from her after my brother was found dead he was two months old.
I was 2 years old at the time and was taken into custody and was held for nearly a month in ICU for severe malnutrition , strep and complications of pheumona.
My two oldest sisters were split up one put in a home because of her emotional disterbances she could not be placed with a family.
She did manage to grow up become addiected to drugs and gave birth to a little boy who died at the age of 4 months complication of being born addicted.
My oldest sister was placed with a couple for foster care.
She grew up and seemed quite stable untill she had children of her own.
Last year when the boys were 11, 10, and 8 years old she walked away without a word , they are currently in the custody of the state of Missiouri.
She never bonded with her children so I guess found no remourse in walking out on them.
Me and my last sister the court ordered we were to be kept together we were young and had a chance at being adopted.
We were put in fostercare and went through several home and a few prospective adoptive parents none worked out untill I was six years old.

When I was six years old I was placed with the family that would eventualy adopt me, but it st...

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If abortion were once again made illegal (this will not happ
Posted by Anonymous on Wed Jan 22 at 08:54:pm
en)... what will keep it from being made legal again?

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Conservative Men and Abortion
Posted by Anonymous on Tue Jan 21 at 10:33:pm
Hello. I'm new here, and this seems to be a very conservative site. I'm a liberal who enjoys visiting online forums. Since it is about the 30 year aniversery of Roe v Wade, I would like to discuss the matter and here some conservative responses to my following statements (I'd like responses from everyone else, as well).

Why is it that conservative men always seem to put 100% of the blame
for unwanted pregnacies on women? After reading comments from
conservative men such as "a woman has the right not to have sex," "
a woman has the right to keep her pants on," and "a woman has the
right to be a virgin until she is ready to take responsibility for
her actions," I wonder where the men fit into this. Aren't they at
least 50% responsible? Even moreso if they are the ones pressuring
women into sex?

Personally I think that our society will deteriorate quickly if
abortion is outlawed. There will be far too many unwanted children
and others will be forced to have children they do not want.
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Interviews: Jeanette's Story
Posted by Chrysoprasus on Sat Jan 4 at 11:43:am
Originally posted at http://www.hardtruth.net

This is the interview of Jeanette, a 36 year old female. She is married and now has three precious children.
When asked her favorite hobbies, she exclaimed "My kids!"
She also enjoys swimming and has a beautiful voice. She made the abortion decision when she was 20.


Chrys: What religion were you raised in Jeanette?

Jeanette: Baptist...yes it's a religion all on it's own. I was baptized when i was 6 or 7 but not really saved, just bathed...i was actually saved when i was about 16.

Chrys: Do you believe that abortion is ok, and if not, did you ever?

Jeanette: No, I do not believe it is ok.. I don't think i ever REALLY did although I thought maybe there were times that it would be ok...situational ethics kinda thing.

Chrys: Was it a moral or biblical reason for believing that?

Jeanette: Probably moral more than biblical

Chrys: In your situation was the decision mutual?

Jeanette: Yes. (pause) As for the mutual decision thing....we both agreed..neither of us voiced objections but i think that both of us deep down were kinda hoping the other would reject the idea. Years later when i had the miscarriage Todd and I talked about it. He said that he never really wanted me to have the abortion. My initial reaction was wanting to hurt him .because all he would've had to do was object and i probably wouldn't have done it. In fact, that is probably the only thing that would have stopped me! But i have NEVER told him that...that is a guilt trip that he just does not need.

Chrys: Were both of you Christians at the time?

Jeanette: Yes.

Chrys: I understand. What...

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Sara's Story
Posted by Chrysoprasus on Sat Jan 4 at 11:39:am
Originally posted at http://www.hardtruth.net


Sara first contacted me after she read a few of the previous interviews posted here. We discussed how to present her story, and she felt that just writing it out to be posted instead of doing it "interview" style would be easier for her, as she could take her time and relate a little more about what happened.
In my conversations with her she comes across as sweet, sensitive, and absolutely convicted that her story needs to be told so that others may listen and learn from her, or at least find some healing in being able to relate to what she's been through.



I was brought up in an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church by great Christian parents- they took their children to church every time the doors were open. I accepted Christ as my personal Savior at the young age of eight and I am now in my forties.

I remember very little fanfare about abortion in the area that I lived or at the church where I attended. In fact, I remember my church bringing up other causes such as prayer in school, or banning/burning certain books. Other things they preached against were going to the movies, watching television, women/girls wearing pants or wearing their dresses too short, men/boys wearing their hair too long, or growing beards.

But in all honesty, to my knowledge, abortion passed thru in 1973 with less than a whisper. It was not at all like the stands taken today by Christians. The only person that ever mentioned "abortion" to me was my sister-in-law. At a very young age, she had to have chemo and radiation therapy which made unable to have children. She mentioned to me once how very difficult it was now to adopt a child because more women were choosing abortion instead of giving their children up for adoption. She didn't feel abortion was wrong because until a person could br...

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Interviews: David's Story
Posted by Chrysoprasus on Sat Jan 4 at 11:38:am
Originally posted at http://www.hardtruth.net

This is the interview of David, a 27 year old male from Maryland. He has a beautiful wife, two children born, and one on the way. He enjoys almost all sports, and also likes to cook and work in his garden. Two years ago he and his wife made the abortion decision.


Chrys: What religion were you raised in David?

David: I was raised without religion, but not atheist either, just nothing...

Chrys: Are you a Christian now?

David: Yes, I'm in the Baptist denomination. I started my new Christian life one month to the day after the abortion.

Chrys: Do you believe abortion is right and if not, when did you start believing it was wrong?

David: No, I do not believe it is right, and I have always believed it to be wrong.

Chrys: Did you believe it was wrong for moral or biblical reasons?

David: I would say for both reasons. Even though, I was lost, I believed in a God, and I knew that murder was wrong. And I knew that abortion is killing a life.

Chrys: At the time you went through this, was it a mutual decision?

David: When Ashleigh told me that she was pregnant, I didn't know what to do. We already had two kids, and I would just repeat that we couldn't afford this. I didn't really consider abortion. The next day, she said that she had called some doctors, and wanted me to check to see if our insurance covered it. I knew she didn't want to really do this, we didn't really even talk about it. She found a doctor, and I talked to the insurance company. I felt awful just having to say to the insurance company, "my wife and I are going to have an abortion." The decision was mutual, but I don't think either one of us really wanted to do it...

Chrys: Ok, that answered my n...

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Abortion and a Godly Nation
Posted by Chrysoprasus on Sat Jan 4 at 11:36:am
Originally posted at http://www.hardtruth.net

Let's face it, abortion is a hot debate topic. People argue up one side of it and people refute them all the way down the other. Many efforts are made on both sides to prove that life begins at such and such a time in the conception/growth process.


The problem with this is that we simply do not know for sure, and never will. What separates a human being from an animal is not our size, or appearance, or age, but our souls. When did you become uniquely you? When did God create your soul and impart it to your earthly being?

I can't answer that. Your parents can't answer that. The government can't answer that, nor can the answer be provided by science.

What I can tell you is that science has intruded on a sacred process, and we now can see for ourselves how physical bodies develop. Instead of standing back in awe and wonder at such a miracle, the reaction seems to be "Aha! We've figured it out, there is no more mystery, we're so intelligent." In his confidence and pride man forgets that there is only One who has complete knowledge, and man begins thinking "If I'm this intelligent, surely I can say for certain what is right and wrong, true and false, sin and righteousness, merely on my own cognizance."

In other words, we forget God.
We forget that we do NOT know it all.
What happens when we forget God?
We forget how sacred life is.
Where does that lead us?
It leads us to where we are today, performing thousands upon thousands of abortions without knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt whether or not we are committing murder.

We're wiling to take that chance on children, but when it comes to a murderer himself we must be able to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is guilty before we sentence him to ...

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“The Abortion Wars: Why the Po-Lifers Will Win”
Posted by Anonymous on Mon Dec 9 at 02:49:pm
from www.laststory.com


“The Abortion Wars: Why the Po-Lifers Will Win”
Few topics of public discourse carry the emotional baggage of abortion, sans, of course, arguing over which girl was right for TV’s “Bachelor.” What makes abortion such a tantalizing topic is that it combines all the taboos of society: sex, religion, money, morality, and politics. Everyone thinks they are right and nobody thinks they are wrong. The purpose of this piece is not to rehash the same, tired arguments regarding abortion (“It’s my body and I can do what I want!” “It’s a baby not a choice!”), but rather, to move in a direction the media seldom dares to tread—trying to determine which side will ultimately prevail. And in fairly and unemotionally analyzing the subject matter, the answer is a no-brainer: The Pro-Lifers will win. Furthermore, since the victors write the history books, the Pro-Choice movement will find itself atop the ash-heap of historical villainy, demonized along with the other evils of recent memory, such as communism, Nazism, slavery, and disco. It’s inevitable, and we’re just starting to witness the first signs of Pro-Life’s eventual victory.

What gave the Pro-Choice movement such strength will also become its undoing: technology and demographics. The advent of the birth control pill gave rise to the Sexual Revolution of the 1960s. For the first time in human history, sex without biological consequences became a reality… and willing participants weren’t difficult to find. This was the 1960s—and the baby boomers were dropping acid rather than fiber pills, having hot orgies rather than hot flashes. The Sexual Revolution lead to a greater openness and appreciation for libido-related practices, sex before wedded bliss became the norm, and perhaps more importantly, religion’s old puritanical notion of celibacy beyond the institution of marriage was bathed in ...

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If you wish to add any pictures
Posted by webmaster on Sat Nov 2 at 10:38:pm
If you wish to add any abortion pictures to the Memorial Page then post the image here and I'll add them to the webpage.

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Read before posting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by webmaster on Sat Nov 2 at 08:24:pm
This forum is about the webpage at
http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php

If all you do is complain your post will be deleted. We are looking for positive information of what to add to the webpage or remove. If you wish to argue then I refuse to, find somebody else to argue with or just argue with yourself. If you convince me thru your arguments then I might add it or change something!

Not all Suggestions will be used.

This is the place for suggestions of how to improve the webpage.

Some of your comments will be added to the webpage. So everything posted here will be (C) by the Jesus Christ Forums.

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Abortion
Posted by Anonymous on Wed Oct 9 at 09:09:pm
The church uses it as a smokescreen issue all the time to prove that the world is "doing bad" and the Christian church is the only bastion of hope for all the children of the world. It is poppycock. This is the same church that doesn't want to give out condoms around the world but instead promote abstainence.

Go tell Africans who eat dirt, have no hope for a future and believe that *** a virgin can cure aids....that they should just wait until marriage!!!

The church proves again and again that its myopic 1900's views are no longer relevant.

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A thought provoking essay about abortion...
Posted by dp on Sun Sep 22 at 10:45:am
Quote:
Abortion: A "nice" name for 1st-degree murder

I'm a physician. I've been in practice for over 20 years. I've still -- to this day -- never had any personal knowledge of an abortion which was done to "save the life of the mother".

Talk about "saving the life of the mother", however, is another story altogether. It's discussed incessantly as an "excuse" for abortion.

"Rape" and "incest" are also discussed incessantly as excuses for abortion. But wait a minute. Aren't there pills which can prevent pregnancy if taken immediately? What's a woman doing 2, or 3, or even 9 months later, popping up demanding an abortion for "rape"?

And who said that because a father had such poor self-control that he fornicated with his own daughter, that the offspring of the union must die? What did the offspring do wrong? Isn't it the father who deserves punishment? No, you say? We better look into this in a little more detail, if you just said "no".



The above is from an essay about abortion that may possibly lead you to view abortion in a somewhat different "light" regardless of how you regard abortion at the present.

The full text can be found here

P.S. The opinion(s) expressed on the webpage(s) of the above linked site (of which I have no affiliation/association with) are the sole responsibility of the author(s) are not necessarily in accord with nor representative of m...

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Beheaded by the Beast!
Posted by webmaster on Sat Sep 14 at 06:08:pm
Beheaded by the USA Justice System!



http://www.abortionismurder.org/notconvinced.shtml


And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

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It’s ok throw those babies in that trash can?
Posted by webmaster on Sat Sep 14 at 05:38:pm



From http://www.babykiller.com/

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Rejoice in Jesus Christ! Your Mom was not PRO-CHOICE.
Posted by webmaster on Sun Aug 25 at 04:42:pm
Rejoice in Jesus Christ that Your Mom was not PRO-CHOICE!


Pro-Life Bumper Stickers
http://sblomberg.com/cbs/prolife.htm

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RU-486
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Aug 24 at 03:30:pm
The RU-486 Controversy


This week, three pro-life organizations petitioned the Food and Drug Administration to take the abortion pill known as RU-486 off the market. They charge that the drug procedure that induces abortion is imperiling women's lives.


Two women recently died after taking the drug, called Mifeprex, and four other women suffered medical problems after taking the drug. The pro-life groups also charged that the drug was prematurely approved by the Food & Drug Administration two years ago. (Abortion-rights proponents were demanding rapid approval of the drug and FDA officials were apparently not courageous enough to conduct appropriate testing before yielding to the political pressure.)


The groups filing the petition against RU-486 - Concerned Women for America, the Christian Medical Association, and the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists - said they plan to lobby the White House and Congress to have the drug taken off the market.


Sandy Rios, CWA president, noted that President Bush and Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson have publicly stated that if RU-486 were found to be unsafe, they would take action against the drug.


Thank God we have a president who understands the value of all life.


The frequent outcry of militant abortion supporters is: "Keep Abortion Safe And Legal." It is readily apparent that half of that declaration bears no legitimacy whatsoever.


The abortion-rights community and the medical community that pockets multiple millions of dollars from the lucrative abortion industry have been willing to place women's lives at risk in order to maintain the status quo of abortion. And our nation's mainstream media is equally responsible for this concerted cover-up because it has been plainly willing to conceal legitimate me...

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Mental Health Problems Caused By Abortions
Posted by Anonymous on Sat Aug 24 at 03:28:pm
DATE: August 22, 2002
FROM: Jerry Falwell

Study Reveals Abortion Harms Women's Mental Health ... and the Media Yawns


Have you heard about the new study revealing that a significant number of women suffer mental anguish following an abortion?


Well, unless you subscribe to the American Journal of Orthopsychiatry, which published the report last month, or are a fervent researcher of the Internet, you probably haven't heard of this important study.


That's because our mainstream news media recurrently declines to broadcast studies that cast a skeptical shadow on abortion.


The reason? A woman's "right" to abortion must be protected at all costs.


In fact, the media has historically refused to report on a host of medical studies that have found a genuine link between abortion and breast cancer. Studies in the U.S., Japan, Denmark, Israel and several other nations have found this link between breast cancer and abortion, with one study showing that women who had one or two abortions before a full-term pregnancy actually doubled their cancer risk. (Despite an overabundance of scientific findings, the National Cancer Institute continues to maintain that there is no established connection between breast cancer and abortion.)


If the powerful networks and newspapers won't report on the considerable and notable breast cancer link to abortion, they are certainly not going to publicize this new study finding that women frequently experience mental distress following an abortion.


The authors of this new study examined 173,000 Medi-Cal records for low-income California women, and compared the rate of psychiatric outpatient treatments for women who had abortions to those who carried their pregnancies to term. (They excluded women who had undergone previous psychiatric care a year pr...

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Is abortion a sin?
Posted by Anonymous on Wed Jul 17 at 11:47:pm
Tell me what you think, and I will respond.

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Each * symbol represents 10,000 people (or fraction) killed.


Total number of AIDS deaths since the beginning of the epidemic: 18.8 million

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Revolutionary War - 4,435 deaths.

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Civil War (both sides) - 498,332 deaths.

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World War I - 116,708 deaths.

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World War II - 407,316 deaths.

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Korea - 25,604 deaths.

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Vietnam - 58,168 deaths.

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Total killed due to abortion since 1973 - 35,000,000 (35 MILLION) deaths.

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Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb, I sanctified thee... (Jeremiah 1:5)

He shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb (Luke 1:15)

And it came to pass , that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost: And she spake with a loud voice, and said 'Blessed are thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb'. (Luke 1:41-42)

Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. (Genesis 9:6)





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Freejesus SiteMap


Short List of All the Websites

 

Outreach 1 - Reaching people with the Gospel ~ The 4 salvation pages
http://www.web-ministry.com/jesus/index.php
http://www.hardtruth.net/jesus/index.php
http://www.electrosnap.com/jesus
http://www.freejesus.net/salvation.php

Outreach 2 - Abortion Memorial Service and related
http://abortion.hardtruth.net/index.php
http://abortion.hardtruth.net/usa/index.php
http://www.hardtruth.net/forum/index.php?c=4
http://www.electrosnap.com/abortion/
http://www.electrosnap.com/abortion/memorial/
http://www.electrosnap.com/abortion/stats/
http://www.electrosnap.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=22
http://www.electrosnap.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=23
http://www.web-ministry.com/abortion/index2.php
http://www.web-ministry.com/abortion/index.php
http://www.web-ministry.com/abortion/usa/
http://www.web-ministry.com/linear.php?postID=14
http://www.web-ministry.com/linear.php?postID=453
http://www.web-ministry.com/linear.php?postID=469
http://www.web-ministry.com/comments/index.php?dfilename=sara
http://www.web-ministry.com/comments/index.php?dfilename=Abortion-USA
http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php
http://www.freejesus.net/home/viewforum.php?f=97

Outreach 3 - The Bus Ministry
http://www.electrosnap.com/Bus/Bus.htm
http://www.electrosnap.com/Bus/
http://www.electrosnap.com/Bus/BusMinistryManual.pdf
http://www.electrosnap.com/Bus/soulwinbus.htm
http://www.web-ministry.com/bus/index.php
http://www.web-ministry.com/bus/images/
http://www.web-ministry.com/bus/BusMinistryManual.pdf
http://www.web-ministry.com/bus/evangelism/page1.php
http://www.web-ministry.com/bus/evangelism/page2.php
http://www.web-ministry.com/bus/evangelism/page3.php
http://www.freejesus.net/home/viewforum.php?f=113

Outreach 4 - Bible Commentary
ASV Bible Commentary for Message of Hope
http://www.electrosnap.com/bible/
KJV Bible Commentary for Web-Ministry
http://www.web-ministry.com/commentary/index.php

Outreach 5 - Prayer Request
Main One
http://www.web-ministry.com/prayer/index.php
Click here to read or reply to ALL Prayer Request
http://www.web-ministry.com/prayer/index2.php
Read an Origen on Prayer
http://www.web-ministry.com/prayer/origen/index.php
You can syndicate the Prayer Request using the file backend.php
http://www.web-ministry.com/prayer/rdf.php
Prayer Request on electrosnap copied in same style as the main one.
http://www.electrosnap.com/prayer/
There are about 50+ Prayer Partners so far.

Outreach 6 - Parables
Jesus Christ Parables
http://www.web-ministry.com/religious/parables/
This is an outreach to other Christians or to the Church in general. This is a very valuable tool to a LOT of Sunday School teachers coming to these parable websites looking for information, pictures ,etc for their class's.

Outreach 7 - Homosexual outreach
http://www.web-ministry.com/sin/index.php
http://www.web-ministry.com/sin/homosexuality/index2.php
http://www.web-ministry.com/linear.php?postID=16
http://www.freejesus.net/index.php
http://www.freejesus.net/threadeded.php
http://www.freejesus.net/views/sin.php
http://www.freejesus.net/home/index.php?c=19
http://www.electrosnap.com/views/sin.htm
http://www.electrosnap.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=18

Outreach 8 - Programming
http://www.web-ministry.com/guestbook/index.php
http://www.hardtruth.net/modules.php?name=Downloads
The PHP Guestbook - Threaded Forum is what is used on all the sites. It has been downloaded and set up on other sites quite a bit. This leaves a link back to the web-ministry site which helps in the overrall ranking of the web-ministry site. It has attracted a LOT of non-christians who normally wouldn't go to a christian website in the first place.

Outreach 9 - Social Services Abuse Webpage
Social Services Abuse Webpage
Social Services Abuse Forum

Outreach 10 - Muslim Outreach
Muslim & Christian Discussion Forum
Quran and Bible debate
Islam & Buddha & Hinduism & Mithraism & Christianity
Quran & Bible Debate :: Why the church is not mentioned in revelation? Webpage
Why the Church is not mentioned in Revelation
Online Quran with Search
Compare the Quran and Bible
Why does the muslims hate the jews for?
Conversion to Islam?
Arabic Bible Online


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