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From the book Prolife answers to Prochoice Arguments:
"What is legal is not always right. Law doesn’t reflect morality – rather the law should reflect a morality that is independent of the law. Case in point: was abortion immoral on January 21, 1973 and moral on January 23, 1973? In the 1940’s a German doctor could kill Jews legally, while in America he would have been prosecuted for murder. In the 1970’s and American doctor could kill unborn babies legally, while in Germany he would have been prosecuted for murder. Laws change. Truth and justice don’t."
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Posted by
darwinatridge
on Wed Aug 17 at 03:19:pm
This is a wonderful site. There is so much information out there and it is often not easy to put it all together in one place so people can find it without having to spend so much time to find it. I have endevored to try and put as much information on my websites so that it can be easily accessed. http://www.youchoose2008.org/ http://www.deathbyabortion.org/ Much of this information is very graphic and as you will see very partisan, but that is the nature of the beast when you are dealing with the evil that is taking place in this world. It is imposible not to be one sided when you look at it from Gods prospective. What I believe is happening in America is that God is knocking the fence walkers off of the fence. Which side of the fence they fall on is totally up to them. (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
lifeandliberty
on Wed Aug 3 at 09:54:pm
One Baby Was Saved At The Abortion Clinic Today And Another Save Is Connected To LLM'S Richmond Literature Drop Project This morning eleven Christians "showed up" on the street at Richmond Medical Center for Women. I stated in my last update on Saturday, July 30, "when Christians show up, babies are saved". Today another baby escaped death and another mother escaped the guilt of killing her child. Here's what happened. "A couple drove in and the man let a woman out to go into the killing center. He then parked his car. As he approached the door, Mary Penner called out to him and offered him a packet of LLM's literature. He walked over and accepted it. Mary challenged him to take it inside and give it to the woman he had brought to the mill. He did. Some time later they both came back out. Mary said that she was happy to see them leaving. The woman, with a big smile on her face, thanked Mary. She said that she was also glad to be leaving and again thanked Mary for intervening." The second victory is connected to our ongoing Richmond Literature Drop Campaign. Our Father uses even our mistakes for His glory This morning Lauren Murch related the following story. Several weeks ago a crew from the Murch clan joined us on the street in our effort to get convicting pro-life Gospel literature into every home in Richmond. On this particular day a group of three young people ended up on a street corner waiting to be picked up by me as we worked the streets. I couldn't find them because they ended up at the wrong corner, or so I thought. Our Father had His own plans. While standing on the corner, Lauren Murch handed a piece of our literature to a woman who then asked Lauren to put some on a particular door because the woman who... (8) Comments left |
| FACE THE TRUTH VIRGINIA CAMPUS TOUR |
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Posted by
lifeandliberty
on Mon Jul 25 at 06:37:pm
A ministry opportunity from Life and Liberty Ministries This is the schedule for LLM's upcoming annual tour. The Face The Truth Virginia Campus Tour will run through the week of September 26 - 30, 2005. Universities, High Schools, and other busy areas are our target locations. If you are a born-again Christian with a heart for the murdered preborn and a desire to share God's Word with the lost, consider joining with us on this short-term mission. The cities and towns that will be visited are listed below but the exact locations can be obtained by contacting LLM at 804-492-9216 or by e-mail at lifeandliberty@juno.com Monday, Sept. 26 7:00 AM - Richmond 11 AM - Williamsburg 3:30 PM - Norfolk Tuesday, Sept. 27 6:45 AM - Norfolk 10:30 AM - Norfolk Afternoon stop TBA Wednesday, Sept. 28 7:00 AM - Richmond 10:30 AM - Richmond 3:30 PM - Richmond Thursday, Sept. 29 8:00 AM - Charlottesville 11:30 AM - Charlottesville Afternoon stop TBA Friday, Sept. 30 7 AM - Bridgewater / Harrisonburg 10:30 AM - Harrisonburg The following information sheet gives many of the logistical details that you may have questions about and is a must-read if you are considering joining with us on this short-term mission: Dennis Green Life and Liberty Ministries P.O. Box 862 Powhatan, VA 23139 (804) 492-9216 ... (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
MagnoliaAngel
on Sun Jul 17 at 11:50:am
This is a conversation between me and my father as of yesterday. Me: Did you know that they say babies are tourtured when they are being aborted and that they could feel death? Dad: I doubt it, they are only about 3 months. You need to quit watching TBN, it is totally obvious that the republicans run it. You only hear one side to the story but not the other side. Me: Yeah, but Abortion is murder,still! Dad: I wouldn't talk because what if you got raped tomorrow and impregnated? Seriously--would you keep it? Me: (Nothing.) Dad: Then you arent pro life. You can only be one or the other. I don't know what to believe now. just thought you guys could help me out... (32) Comments left |
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Posted by
biochemrex
on Fri Jun 17 at 01:51:am
The weirdness of the abortion debate is that the Atheists accept a Christian Scriptural view while the Christians argue from Buddhist doctrine. The Jews believe that a human person does not exist until a baby is borne. There is no teaching against abortion in the Bible which endorses it against enemies. Psalm 137 teaches that it is good to kill the babies of enemies. Jesus says he does not deny Jewish law and has no qualification on this subject. Of the early Church fathers, the most influential St Aquinas taught that human life - ensoulment, took place at 60 days, not at conception. However Buddhist doctrine has always maintained that life begins at conception and to procure an abortion or even practice birth control is a non virtuous act of the most serious kind,(a mortal sin). However over the years Christian values have come under Buddhist and Pagan influence while Christians have cast aside traditional Christian beliefs and values. Keith (13) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Thu May 26 at 02:13:am
Recently, I became engaged in a debate with a professing Christian who supports embryonic stem cell research. Given my staunch pro-life stance, I obviously am opposed to E.S.C.R. Here are a few quotes from Bop-o.
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Posted by
mike england
on Fri Apr 8 at 05:28:pm
Psalm 139:13-16 13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of the earth, 16 your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be. http://www.jesusforums.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=56 (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
arunangelo
on Wed Mar 30 at 11:47:pm
Women have abortions for many reasons. They include: unwed or teenage pregnancies, pregnancies due to rape or incest, fetal deformities and inconvenience. Abortion is the worst type of violence and an extreme act of terrorism; because, it terrorizes and kills, innocent and helpless human beings. It is also the worst crime a human being can commit, because, in this act a mother, who is supposed to protect and nurture her baby, gets her own innocent baby killed. It therefore, brings perpetual unrest to the people who have it and the society that permits it. Some people justify abortion, because, they feel that a fetus is not a human being. However, irrespective of the different arguments people have, for or against, to prove that fetuses or human embryos are human beings; no one can deny the fact that abortion is destruction of a genetically distinct human life. In addition, since a large number of people feel that a fetus or an embryo is a human being, it is our duty to protect them (even if we do not consider them as human beings), because, if others are correct, then, destroying a fetus or embryo is murder. If a group of people went hunting, and half of them see an animal in the distant and want to shoot it, but the other half think it is a human being, the benefit of the doubt has to be in favor of it being a human being. The same logic also applies to abortion. Some people realize that abortion is wrong; however, they do not want to force their belief on others. However, protecting the life of innocent human beings is our civic duty, and has nothing to do with our belief. We have laws against murder, although it is a religious belief that murder is wrong. In this case we don’t say that we are imposing our belief on others. Others argue that a woman has a right to choose to not have a baby. However, when a woman becomes pregnant, she already has the baby; therefore, the question about her right with respect to that pregnancy is not an issue. Some people ju... (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
lifeandliberty
on Sat Mar 5 at 07:19:pm
Wolves and Children The fact of the matter is that some forms of "ministry work" are more appealing to the flesh than others. I rejoice that the Heavenly Father has put me where I am, but I don't find street outreach at abortion clinics to be very enjoyable. As a matter of fact I am finding that abortion clinic outreach is very unpleasant. Although there are many examples I could give, let me just share two experiences I have had in the last week to illustrate what I mean. Last week I encountered three individuals as they approached the door to "Richmond Medical Center for Women". I approached a young girl of fifteen with her parents. I began to share information about the dangers of abortion, the help available, and the Gospel. To my suprise, the young girls father allowed me to share at length. In the end, the family tearfully went home with the daughters preborn child still intact. This may sound like a wonderful victory, and it was to some degree. But here is the problem I so often see on the street. It's cowardice and complacency on the part of family members who bring their loved ones to have their children chopped up. It never ceases to amaze me how many of the family members who bring girls to the clinic claim to be opposed to the decision to kill the baby. This of course doesn't stop them from driving the car, offering "support" etc. So many today are steeped in cowardice and complacency and are so worried that they might offend, that they actually become accomplices in the murder of the innocent child. By God's grace, we are sometimes able to infuse some backbone into these accomplices and they actually rise up and play a key role in saving the childs life. More often that not, however, they simply stand around and do nothing. I encountered a "wolf" two days ago at "A Capital Women's Health Clinic". Some may doubt this and say that w... (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
tuppence
on Wed Feb 16 at 12:45:pm
Thought this article might be of interest here: Townhall.com February 14, 2005 Embryonic stem cell research as an obsession Donald R. May "I will work with Congress to ensure that human embryos are not created for experimentation or grown for body parts, and that human life is never bought and sold as a commodity." -- President George W. Bush, State of the Union address, February 02, 2005. Twenty-first century society was not prepared for the fact that human life could be produced for the purpose of harvesting cells or body parts for the benefit of others. Only a few years ago we thought this was still science fiction from some futuristic Star Trek age. Rapid scientific advancements have made it possible to produce new human life in the laboratory. We can no longer put off the ethical questions surrounding the use of embryos and clones. President Bush was correct to address the embryonic stem cell controversy and to provide money to fund it with appropriate limitations and safeguards. His courage to address problems quickly and definitively, and not defer them to future administrations, may well be his greatest legacy. Bone marrow stem cell transplants save the lives of thousands each year and have been performed for more than four decades. The medical therapies developed from stem cell research (SCR) have produced successful results far beyond our expectations. With all this scientific success and with more than 15,000 patients benefiting from SCR each year, why are some people apoplectic? The answer is both simple and perplexing. The scientific breakthroughs and the medical therapies have all come from adult stem cells and none as yet have come from embryonic stem cells. Rather than welcoming the results and pursuing support for what works, there are paradoxically increasing demands for the recognit... (2) Comments left |
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Posted by
lifeandliberty
on Sat Jan 29 at 05:42:pm
The Ephesus Project It takes a village to kill a child Abortion clinics need a lot of help to remain open and to continue killing innocent children. Not only are "doctors", procedure room workers, and office staff needed, but so are plumbers, printing companies, and electricians and financial contributors. The goal of the Ephesus Project is to identify and expose those businesses that associate and partner themselves with the child killing clinics of Central Virginia. The Ephesus Project has several desired goals in mind. 1. To identify those who enable abortionists to continue their assault upon innocent children. 2. To reveal to the Church and business community, the names and addresses of those businesses that fund, service and help maintain the abortion industry in Central Virginia. 3. To encourage churches, businesses and individuals to contact those companies which have aligned themselves with the abortion mills to voice their concern. 4. To encourage all churches, individuals and businesses to abstain from seeking the services of any company that seeks to profit from the shedding of innocent blood. HOW DID THESE BUSINESSES GET ON THE LIST LLM has contacted each of the businesses listed below in hopes that they would give assurances that they would cease from willingly contributing their time, services, or money to the abortion clinics in the Greater Richmond area. Businesses that give those assurances are removed or never make it onto the list. Our hope is to preserve the reputation of those businesses that see their error and disassociate themselves from the abortion industry. This list is of those businesses that have ignored our letters, e-mails and faxes. Their comm... (8) Comments left |
| Supreme Court receives case to overturn Roe v. Wade |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Tue Jan 18 at 02:19:am
C E N T E R F O R R E C L A I M I N G A M E R I C A From the Desk of Dr. Gary Cass, Executive Director + + PRO-LIFE ALERT, 1/17/2005 Supreme Court receives case to overturn Roe v. Wade (Forward to your pro-life friends) Linda, On January 18, the U.S. Supreme Court will begin a process that could overturn Roe v. Wade! Because you have stood with the Center for Reclaiming America on pro-life issues, I wanted to alert you to this news. On January 18, Norma McCorvey (the original "Jane Roe" of Roe v. Wade) will file a legal appeal with the Supreme Court to have Roe v. Wade reversed. I will be in Washington, D.C., on that day to stand with our friends at The Justice Foundation in support of this case. The Justice Foundation has invested thousands upon thousands of hours in this case. They have gathered an enormous body of evidence to support Norma's case. Linda, this is a powerful opportunity to refute Roe v. Wade! Here is how you can help. First, notify your friends. Forward this message to everyone you know. We simply must get the word out. Second, please pray for Norma and the team at The Justice Foundation. Set aside time on January 18, specifically, to pray. Third, find out more about this case and how you can impact The Justice Foundation’s efforts here: http://www.operationoutcry.org Thank you! Dr. Gary Cass Executive Director Center for Reclaiming America + + For CENTER coverage of this issue: http://www.reclaimamerica.org/pages/operation/operationout.asp + + ... (5) Comments left |
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Posted by
burwelm
on Sun Jan 2 at 12:45:pm
Abortion is wrong. How many women do you hear saying- "I'm so glad I aborted ". One of my friends had an abortion because her current boyfriend was not the father. That boyfriend has left her now and many times she talks like she wishes she hadn't had the abortion. The fact is that as long as abortion is acceptable many females will feel that it is their moral duty to abort a child not because she doesn't love or want the child but because society tells us that children who don't have a stable environment will turn out "bad" and that a woman needs to have enough money to raise a child before having one. Also, most women don't trust other people with their children because they don't trust anyone and so they don't consider adaoption. There are plenty of stories of women who, every year after she had the abortion thinks about how old the child would be and wonders what the child would have been like. Also when the women see other children that are the same age as the child she aborted it causes alot of emotional and mental trauma. So many women who abort later feel guilty about it and wish they never had done it. Abortion hurts the mother. (4) Comments left |
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Posted by
bazariah m
on Sun Nov 28 at 06:58:pm
i cant believe you babble on about the good and the bad as if ooh becuase your devoted christians you can tell everybody else whats right and wrong this link here http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php is just gross, making it seem like a woman is evil if she needs to abort.... have you ever thought that maybe just maybe those women might have anted to keep their babies but couldnt due to health reasons which may have killed both mother and baby??????? i've seen some gross stuff in my time, i check out rotten.com, but never have i been sickened in quite the way i have been on viewing those pictures on this very site, and is it even legal to show pictures of feotuses, and did you ask permission from the would be mothers???????????? (7) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Fri Nov 12 at 02:25:am
Something has been on my mind today, and I thought I'd share it with you. It concerns ectopic pregnancy. The reason I've been thinking about this is because in one of my stories, a character suffers from an ectopic pregnancy. If you don't know what an E.P. is, it's when a fertillized egg is implanted outside the uterus, sometimes in a fallopian tube. Obviously, there is no way the baby can survive and the mother's life is put in serious jeopardy. As the child begins to grow, the tube eventually reaches the point where it will rupture, resulting in blood spotting and, in most cases, severe pain. To save the mother's life, doctors recommend the removal of the baby, meaning that the child's life is ended. You all know how I feel about abortion. But I'm conflicted on this issue. I've heard that it's possible for doctors to move the fertillized egg to its proper place. Is that true? Any thoughts on this matter? (2) Comments left |
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Posted by
Ladybuilder
on Tue Nov 2 at 02:42:pm
Hello everyone. I am doing a thorough research on Post-Abortion syndrome, but I only have 14 days to present the paper with the "evidence", so if you have any suggestions I will definitely listen! I am taking a survey of those who have aborted a child. I am in no means judging anyone!! Here are the questions: What state do you live in? Did you suffer from post-abortion syndrome? What is your faith (Christian, Buddhist, Muslim, Atheist)? Name (optional)? Thank you for your support!! You may e-mail me your surveys if you rather.... ladybuilderinchrist@yahoo.com You will remain anonymous! (1) Comment left |
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Posted by
tuppence
on Thu Oct 28 at 11:36:am
These are all being connected by Sanger's grandson, a very outspoken advocate of abortion: http://www.crosswalk.com/news/weblogs/mohler/?adate=10/25/2004#1292276 Please note the last paragraph of this article: Alexander Sanger's argument puts the issue of abortion once again right at the center of our public argument. We must be ready to answer this Darwinist worldview with a clear alternative. If morality is nothing more than biology, our entire moral structure is aborted. (0) Comments left |
| Just the facts- life before birth, your first nine months |
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Posted by
David
on Thu Oct 14 at 01:21:pm
Just the facts- life before birth, your first nine months http://www.justthefacts.org/clar.asp "I believe abortion is the last official stand of the defiant apostate against God. It says, "God, you will not determine who lives or dies—I will!" The ultimate apostasy." (0) Comments left |
| Abortions at just 8 weeks *Pictures* |
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Posted by
Sarah5775
on Sun Oct 10 at 07:48:am
8 Week Abortions
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| If life begins at conception... |
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Posted by
Chris
on Fri Oct 1 at 02:45:pm
why dont we celebrate Conceptiondays instead of Birthdays.? I mean, if the babies were already alive before they came out... (10) Comments left |
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Posted by
Sarah5775
on Fri Oct 1 at 03:28:am
Go here http://clinicquotes.topcities.com/abortedpics/AbortionPictures.html Do you think if more people saw these pictures, there would be fewer abortions? (1) Comment left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Thu Sep 30 at 01:07:am
Abortion Facts - www.abortionfacts.com/life_or_choice/prolife_information.asp (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
tuppence
on Sat Sep 11 at 11:10:am
It is, of course, far more acceptable to the liberal mindset to kill babies rather than use one's own stem cells (which carry no risk of rejection) in stem cell therapies. The 'need' for embryonic stem cells appears to be a purely political ploy. Please PLEASE read the following article. Thank you. http://www.nationalreview.com/script/printpage.asp?ref=/smithw/smith200409090835.asp (1) Comment left |
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Posted by
Ladybuilder
on Mon Aug 23 at 05:41:pm
Hello everyone! I have to do a research paper on this question: Does post-abortion syndrome exist? I wanted to know if anyone knew some reliable sites (not personal sites) or books that I should check out? Thank you! (3) Comments left |
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Posted by
Aineo
on Sat Aug 21 at 10:32:am
Updated Forum Posting Rules as of August 21, 2004 (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
MichaelwithHope
on Wed Aug 11 at 09:23:am
Can you believe this link i found? it goes to this website tentoseven.com i put it in my profile so people can see how sick it is... but i found this link it makes me furious and nauseous!!! http://www.tentoseven.com/radio/abortion.mp3 (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
Sarah5775
on Wed Aug 4 at 11:30:pm
There is a site at http://clinicquotes.topcities.com where there is a collection of quotes and documented first hand accounts of what went on in abortion clinic, as told by current and former abortion providers and clinic workers. Here a few excerpts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From http://clinicquotes.topcities.com/pba.html Nurse Brenda Pratt Shafer describes a Partial Birth Abortion: "I stood at the doctor’s side and watched him perform a partial-birth abortion on a woman who was six months pregnant. The baby’s heartbeat was clearly visible on the ultrasound screen. The doctor delivered the baby’s body and arms, everything but his little head. The baby’s body was moving. His little fingers were clasping together. He was kicking his feet. The doctor took a pair of scissors and inserted them into the back of the baby’s head, and the baby’s arms jerked out in a flinch, a startle reaction, like a baby does when he thinks that he might fall. Then the doctor opened the scissors up. Then he stuck the high-powered suction tube into the hole and sucked the baby’s brains out. Now the baby was completely limp. I never went back to the clinic. But I am still haunted by the face of that little boy. It was the most perfect, angelic face I have ever seen." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "I can remember...the resident doctor sitting down, putting the tube in, and removing the contents. I saw the bloody material coming down the plastic tube, and it went into a big jar. My job afterwards was to go and undo the jar, and to see what was inside. I didn't have any views on abortion; I was in a training program, and this was a brand new experience. I was going... (0) Comments left |
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webmaster
on Sat Jul 10 at 10:14:pm
Little Girl, Don't Cry Little girl, don't you cry Though things will never be alright There will be no mommy to hold you tight There will be no daddy to kiss goodnight Little girl, don't you fret Your little life's not over yet Mommy said she'd wait one more day And then she'll take your life away Precious girl inside Mommy's womb Although this place will be your tomb Try to rest for just this night And think about your Mother's right Yes, Little girl don't be sad And think of the life you could've had Cherish these moments with the one you love And hug her tight till tomorrow comes * wrote this for all the murdered babies who never had a chance* Author - no name given. Here are a few of them...... http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php (4) Comments left |
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newseed
on Tue Jul 6 at 12:05:pm
Feminists pray to Mary for legal abortion -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MATTERS OF LIFE AND DEATH Feminists pray to Mary for legal abortion Asking that it be established throughout Latin America -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: July 3, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com Despite clear Catholic teaching to the contrary, U.S. abortion advocates in Latin America have distributed a prayer card asking the Virgin Mary to intercede to establish abortion on demand throughout the region. Many participants at the Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean meeting in Puerto Rico were stunned Monday when they received a prayer card with the words, "The love of God and of Mary of Guadalupe is greater. ... For women's lives, safe and legal abortion," reports the Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute. The words are superimposed over an image of the Virgin Mary. The back of the card says, "Dear Mary of Guadalupe, we thank you because your love is greater, because you listen to us without judging, because you know our heart and you respect the intimacy of our decisions." The cards were distributed by the American group Catholics for a Free Choice and its Latin American counterpart, Catolicas por el Derecho a Decidir. One observer told the Catholic Family & Human Rights Institute, "How insulting it is that CFFC, a rich American pro-abortion group, would attempt to use the Latin American people's strong devotion to the Virgin Mary to impose their abortion agenda here." At a press conference, CFFC released polling data that purports to show Latin American Catholics overwhelmingly accept a broad reproductive rights agend... (2) Comments left |
| Truth About Roe vs. Wade |
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Posted by
Cherish Wisdom
on Fri Jul 2 at 12:28:am
When I was in law school I learned the truth about Roe v. Wade. The subject was discussed in Constitutional Law. Our professor, who is also a judge, said that it was the worst decision that was ever made by the Supreme Court because it was based on a lie. Before something goes to the USSC - the entire case must be based on sound facts. The judges must base their decision on what is presented BY COUNSEL. In this case - the facts of the case were fiction. Roe was not raped by a gang. She later recanted and admitted that the child was that of her boyfriend. She was not denied an abortion in Wade County Texas. She was told that she would have to PAY for the abortion. Harry Blackmun, who wrote the majority opinion - gathered his own information from Doctors at the Mayo Clinic - who had once been his clients while he was a lawyer. He presented this information to the court (It should have been presented by counsel and not by one of the justices). It was similar to a judge going out and investigating a case on his own. As you know - this does not happen normally. Roe v Wade was based on a lie and as a result millions of unborn human lives have been lost. (1) Comment left |
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Posted by
webmaster
on Mon Jun 21 at 06:44:pm
Further evidence is found in the Didache, also called the Teachings of the Twelve Apostles, written about the year 80 A.D. This book was the Church's first manual of morals, liturgical norms and doctrine. In the first section? two ways are proposed: the way of life and the way of death. In following the way of life, the <Didache> exhorts, " You shall not murder. You shall not commit adultery. You shall not seduce boys. You shall not commit fornication. You shall not steal. You shall not practice magic. You shall not use potions. You shall not procure abortion, nor destroy a new-born child. You shall not covet your neighbor's goods...." Again, scholars link such phrases as "practice magic" and "use potions" with artificial birth control. (4) Comments left |
| Is abortion Biblical? |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Mon Jun 7 at 01:39:am
According to Brian Elroy McKinley, it is. Read the following article and pray for this misguided soul. http://www.elroy.net/ehr/abortion.html (10) Comments left |
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Posted by
Believer
on Mon May 31 at 12:27:am
Peace eveyone, Anyone who claims to be a Christian but is pro-choice, you are NOT a Christian. Jesus came here on a mission to save life, not that we destroy it. Jesus said we must be like chidlren to enert the Kingdom of God, not destroy children. Those that destroy innocent life are followers of Satan, whether they realize that or not. There is no legitamite reason to say a fetus is a "thing" that can be disposed off. It possesses a seperate DNA structute then the mother ans has it's own organs. It has his/her own soul since it is different being than the mother. Christiasn must realize this. (4) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Wed May 26 at 03:30:am
Abortion Advocates Want to Weaken North Ireland's Pro-Life Laws http://www.lifenews.com/nat529.html New Englanders Review Death Penalty, Abortion http://www.cpod.ubc.ca/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=2793 Abortion pill faces obstacles after second teenager dies http://www.eacourier.com/articles/2004/05/24/news/news10.txt Hearing on 24-hour abortion wait delayed again http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/8749355.htm?1c Trucks Push Graphic Anti-Abortion Message http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=1907667 Scotland Program Helping Pregnant Women Avoid Abortion Helps 1000 http://www.lifenews.com/nat528.html (10) Comments left |
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Posted by
EnlightedWoman
on Mon May 24 at 02:13:pm
Planned Parenthood is one of the largest abortion clinics in the United States. Businesses have donated millions of dollars to planned parenthood to support the massacre of the innocent. Sign this petetion and help end Planned Parenthood funding. Please share this link with your friends, so that many more unborn children will be saved. http://www.cutppfunding.com Bless you all (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
beads
on Thu May 20 at 11:19:am
I'm afraid I may be drawn and quartered for even putting this out there, but here goes anyway...... The above post by LindaBee2 in another thread doesn't sit well with me for some reason. Exemption from sin until some arbitrary "age of accountability"? Can someone show me how this concept is supported by the Scriptures? And when you do, please expain to me how the following verse fits in to your expanation:
This verse seems to me to say that when we are conceived in our mother's womb, we are guilty of sin. And if that's true, then how can there be an "age of accountability"? (60) Comments left |
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Posted by
jmc5682
on Wed May 12 at 03:50:pm
I was just wondering what everyone thought of fertility drugs and abortion. There are many woman who take fertility drugs and then get ensiminated (I think I spelled that wrong) and end up pregnant with mulitple babies. Sometime two or three, but there have been many cases of 4,5 and even 6 though rare. Doctors try and convince the woman to abort any more fetuses than 2 because of the risk involved to the mother and babies. My pesonal belief is that it should be a woman's right to choose whether she keeps all or just two of the fetuses. I do think it is a very selfish decision to try and keep more than two as the fetuses once born, will have a 90 percent chance of having problems once they are born. Problems such a CP, devlopmental disabilites, retardation, auto immune problems, learning disabilities such as ADD and Hyperactivity aetc.... Is this fair to the children? They were not conceived naturally. Whas does God think of us messing with natural conception? I was just wondering what the Christian perspective on this controversial subject would be. I would appreciate any responses. Thanks, JC (4) Comments left |
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Posted by
Anonymous
on Sun May 9 at 11:20:am
abortion is good for the following reasons: 1. Once abortion is legalized, there will be safer ways to abort the child and so there wont be unsterile stuff and deaths to the moms. 2. moms who dont want the baby, dont deserve the baby. They should lose money for the abortion beacuse of not knowing how to have safe sex. Abortion is not bad. the child doesnt feel anything. worse comes to worse the child goes to heaven. thats good. life... is a no no. why? cuz if the mom doesnt want the child, how will she take care of it? obviously she will treat him bad. and adoption is good...but you dont know the facts. pretend you discovered that ur parents are not really ur parents, and u where adopted. Why? how come? such turmoil and sadness is uneeded. statistics show that out of a group of kids only a whilte boy is chosen, then second si a white girl, the is a black boy, then its a black girl. you also have to consider why the mothers get abortions: BECAUSE THEY CANT TAKE CARE OF IT. and give it a good life. with proper education. so thats why its good to abort it, then it can go to heaven and live happily with god. yay! so im prochoice. the baby doesnt feel a thing. sure, the pics are nasty, but its just blood. it has no feelings yet. the soul is not in the body. the soul only becomes a part of the body when the mind is fully hooked up, and thats happens a little after the baby is born. gerani1248 (105) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Wed Apr 28 at 02:28:am
From The Left Coast Reporter
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Posted by
jmc5682
on Mon Apr 26 at 05:23:pm
Congradulations to the 1 million (give or take a two hundred thousand) marchers on Washington DC over the weekend supporting a woman's right to choose what happens to her own body. I wish I could have been there to support our civil rights. We must not let biggots and lyars like President Bush put us back 30 years. Kerry in 2004! Religion does not belong in politics. What a person does with their own body is between them and their God. It is no one else's business. (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Apr 24 at 01:21:am
Vatican Warns Kerry Not to Take Communion Breaking from NewsMax.com A top Vatican official close to the Pope, Cardinal Francis Arinze, emphasized today that priests must not give communion to pro-abortion politicians who claim to be Catholic. Arinze, a Nigerian who has been mentioned as a possible successor to Pope John Paul II, did not comment specifically on whether presidential candidate John Kerry should be excommunicated. But the inference was clear -- and Reuters news wire as well as others said the Cardinal's remarks were a clear shot across Kerry's bow. The cardinal left no doubt about Kerry by saying that an "unambiguously pro-abortion" politician "is not fit" to receive communion. "If they should not receive, then they should not be given," he noted. The cardinal's directive "could influence the U.S. presidential race," Reuters observed. Already several leading Catholic laity and clergy have told Kerry that he is excommunicated from the Church because of his abortion stance. Kerry, meanwhile, planned to campaign with pro-choice groups today and denounce President Bush's greatest success in human rights: a ban on gruesome partial-birth abortions. (1) Comment left |
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Posted by
fuzz2050
on Thu Mar 25 at 10:20:pm
How do you feel about Lacis law? the law imposing punishment for crimes done to an unborn child. (8) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Thu Mar 25 at 01:34:am
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Posted by
fuzz2050
on Tue Mar 23 at 11:00:pm
are contraceptives an alternative to abortion? (54) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Tue Mar 23 at 01:35:am
http://www.lifenews.com/nat386.html
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Posted by
fuzz2050
on Fri Mar 19 at 04:18:pm
which of these is the greater sin? (4) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Tue Mar 16 at 02:45:am
http://www.tennessean.com/government/archives/04/03/48307269.shtml?Element_ID=48307269
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Posted by
fuzz2050
on Tue Mar 9 at 02:01:pm
How do you feel about Scot Peterson getting double murder charges for the murder of laci and her unborn child? (4) Comments left |
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Posted by
fuzz2050
on Fri Mar 5 at 12:51:am
this is a forum dedicated to options that will avoid the need for abortion, ill start the birth control pill, it doesnt cause cancer, it doesnt cause an abortion, it does prevent pregnancy. no unwanted pregnancy, no abortion any objections? (2) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Mon Mar 1 at 02:47:am
Arizona Right to Know Abortion Bill Heads to Governor Napolitano Phoenix, AZ (LifeNews.com) -- Legislation that would ensure women are fully informed about the risks, dangers, and alternatives associated with abortion has received final approval from the state legislature and now heads to Governor Janet Napolitano. She supports abortion, but has not indicated whether she will sign or veto the legislation. The state House voted 32-27-1 to approve the bill, which also provides women with information about the development of their unborn child. The state Senate previously approved the legislation by a 18-11 vote margin. The lack of two-thirds majorities in both chambers indicates that if Napolitano doesn't sign the bill, a veto will be very difficult to override. That's why pro-life groups are planning to flood her office will calls, letters and faxes. We call upon Gov. Napolitano to do the right thing to protect the women of Arizona and sign the informed consent bill into law," Len Munsil, President of The Center for Arizona Policy, said. But the chances of Napolitano signing the bill don't look good. ACTION: Contact Governor Napolitano about the Right to Know bill by calling her office at 1-800-253-0883. http://www.lifenews.com/state411.html Bush Administration Subpoenas More Partial-Birth Abortion Records Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The Justice Department has issued a subpoena for additional partial-birth abortion records in its quest to prove that partial-birth abortions are never medically necessary and that a Supreme Court-required health exception to the ban on partial-birth abortions is unneeded. The latest recipients of the subpoena request are a group of Planned Parenthood abortion businesses in six locations, including affiliates in Los Angeles, San Diego, New York, Washington, Kansas City and Pittsburgh. The Bush admin... (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Feb 28 at 01:45:am
Virginia Bill Protecting Women and Unborn Children From Violence Advances Richmond, VA (LifeNews.com) -- A pro-life bill that would offer additional protection for pregnant women and their unborn children has received the final approval from the state legislature and now heads to pro-abortion Governor Mark Warner (D), who has not yet taken a position on the bill. The bill defines an unborn child as a person under law in cases where the baby is killed or injured as a result of an attack on a pregnant woman. It allows prosecutors to charge criminals with an additional crime for killing or injuring the unborn baby. The legislation passed by veto-proof margins and, if Warner vetoes it, pro-life lawmakers are expected to mount a campaign to override the veto. http://www.lifenews.com/state404.html (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Feb 28 at 01:45:am
Third Hospital Files Motion to Quash Partial-Birth Abortion Records Subpoenas Detroit, MI (LifeNews.com) -- The University of Michigan on Monday filed a motion on behalf of its medical center to stop the Bush administration from obtaining records of partial-birth abortions. The information would be used to defend the partial-birth abortion ban against three separate lawsuits filed by abortion advocates. That makes the hospital the third to resist the Justice Department's efforts. The Department of Justice has subpoenaed patient records from seven abortion practitioners and at least five hospitals. The Bush administration is not seeking to identify patients, but is looking to verify what pro-life groups and some abortion advocates have admitted -- that most partial-birth abortions occur on healthy women and healthy babies. The hospitals, and abortion advocates, say the patient information should be kept confidential. In the Michigan case, a University of Michigan medical center staff member is also a party in the pro-abortion suit. UM OBGYN Department Chairman Dr. Timothy Johnson joined the abortion practitioners in opposing the law, which argues the ban is unconstitutional because it does not include a health exception. However, the Bush administration is seeking the records to bolster its case that Johnson has no standing to participate in the lawsuit because neither he nor the University of Michigan medical center perform partial-birth abortions. http://www.lifenews.com/nat348.html (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Feb 28 at 01:43:am
South Dakota Abortion Ban Gets Final Approval, Heads to Governor Pierre, SD (LifeNews.com) -- The South Dakota legislature gave final approval to legislation that would ban most abortions, when the state House agreed with changes the state Senate made to the bill. Now the legislation heads to pro-life Governor Mike Rounds, who says he wants to review the legislation before saying whether he will sign it into law. "We'll sit down, look through the bill and make a decision as to whether we sign it or not sign it," Rounds said. "I've consistently said I don't commit to any particular bill until I've had a chance to see it when it comes to me." Some legislators are concerned the legislation is dead on arrival in the courts after Planned Parenthood files a lawsuit against it, and they are worried it will take as much as $1 million to pay for attorney fees to defend the law. http://www.lifenews.com/state407.html (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Feb 28 at 01:42:am
Pro-Life Advocate Says Abortion Unfairly Targets the Black Community Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- In light of February's Black History Month, one pro-life advocate says more attention needs to be paid to how abortion exploits black women and unfairly targets the African-American community. "Abortion is the number-one killer of African Americans, killing more Black people than all other causes combined," Day Gardner, director, Black Americans for Life, said at a press conference last week. "By the end of this very day, 1,200 Black babies -- the babies that ensure our future -- will die," Gardner added. African Americans make up 13 percent of the population, yet African-American women have more than 35% of all abortions in the United States. The abortion rate of Black women is three times that of White women. Gardner said the most recent census shows that black Americans are not longer the largest minority group in the United States. She attributes that to the 14 million abortions of African-American children since Roe v. Wade. For years, pro-life groups have criticized the abortion businesses for sometimes locating their facilities in predominantly black communities. http://www.lifenews.com/nat347.html (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Feb 28 at 01:41:am
Planned Parenthood Violated its Policies in Holly Patterson's Abortion Death Sacramento, CA (LifeNews.com) -- A report released Tuesday by the California Department of Health Services in their investigation into the death of Holly Patterson reveals that Planned Parenthood failed to follow its own internal policies for informing women on how to use the RU 486 abortion drug that was responsible for Holly's death. The state health agency said Planned Parenthood of Hayward did not have Patterson sign one of the three forms the abortion business says it normally requires women obtaining chemical abortions to sign. "There was no instruction on handwashing prior to the insertion or that the tablets should be inserted with a bare or gloved finger or if the fingernails should be short or free of nail polish. These are simple measures to prevent infection," the report indicated. Alameda County Coroner's report confirmed that the use of RU 486 resulted in an incomplete abortion that led to uterine infection and caused Holly's death. http://www.lifenews.com/nat351.html (2) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Feb 28 at 01:40:am
Oklahoma Senate Turns Back Flawed Right to Know Abortion Law Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- The Oklahoma state Senate has rejected the latest version of a bill requiring women to be offered certain information prior to an abortion. But an Oklahoma pro-life group said a careful analysis shows that the flawed bill would have had little impact. The state chairman for Oklahomans for Life, Tony Lauinger, wrote a letter to Senate members in which he said this particular "informed consent" measure is "meaningless." According to Oklahomans for Life, statistics from Planned Parenthood show that most abortions -- 99 percent -- are performed before 21 weeks of pregnancy. Lauinger has said his organization would consider a vote for the flawed legislative measure a pro-abortion vote if the legislation did not require women to be informed about fetal development for children less than 20 weeks old. http://www.lifenews.com/state398.html (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Feb 28 at 01:39:am
Michigan House Fails to Override Granholm's Parental Consent Veto Lansing, MI (LifeNews.com) -- The Michigan state House failed to override Governor Jennifer Granholms veto of a pro-life bill that would have strengthened the parental consent law. House Speaker Rick Johnson said he will have another vote on the bill, but no specific date is set. Pro-life groups say the bill is needed to stop the judical bypass in the law from being abused. "According to the State Court Administrative Office, up to 800 bypasses are applied for each year and approximately 90% of those judicial bypass waivers are granted. In many instances, the judicial bypass system has become a rubber-stamp process," Kristen Hemker of Right to Life of Michigan told LifeNews.com. The judicial bypass is a Supreme Court-mandated aspect of the law, which has helped reduce teen abortions in Michigan by 55 percent so far, even with the problems. http://www.lifenews.com/state406.html (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Sat Feb 28 at 01:38:am
Kansas State House Committee Approves Abortion Facility Regulations Topeka, KS (LifeNews.com) -- A state House committee passed a pro-life bill setting health and safety standards for abortion facilities on to the full House Monday. The committee heard whistleblower testimony from a former employee at a Kansas City abortion facility. "Ruby," as the employee is called in the report, witnessed first-hand the lack of safe medical procedures at the abortion facility where she worked, including the use of dishwashers as sterilizers, lack of background checks and medical training for medical assistants, lack of such simple procedures as cleaning the table between abortions or monitoring vital signs of patients during or after the abortions, and the storage of aborted children placed in the same refrigerator as food. http://www.lifenews.com/state403.html (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Fri Feb 27 at 02:26:am
http://www.lifenews.com/state405.html Tennessee Pro-Life Constitutional Amendment Weakened by Senate Panel by Steven Ertelt LifeNews.com Editor February 25, 2004 Nashville, TN (LifeNews.com) -- A state Senate committee weakened a pro-life measure that seeks to ammend Tennessee's state constitution to ensure that a privacy clause can't be used to declare an unlimited right to abortion and overturn pro-life legislation. After an impassioned debate, members of the Senate Finance Committee amended the measure to cede authority on key abortion policy decisions back to the state courts. Senator Roy Herron (D-Dresden) sponsored the amendment, which says, "Government shall not interfere with or prevent a woman from obtaining a medical procedure, including abortion, to protect her life or when she is the victim of incest or rape." Chief Deputy Attorney General Andy Bennett, who unsuccessfully argued Planned Parenthood v. Sundquist before the Tennessee Supreme Court in 1999, said the ultimate result of the amendment was to restore a protected abortion right "under certain circumstances" that would likely be determined and defined by state courts. Ed Albin of Tennesse Right to Life said his group was disappointed by the vote and said it was unnecessary to add rape or incest exceptions to the proposal. "Such an amendment defeats the clear purpose of SJR 127 which is to restore to the people of Tennessee, through our elected officials, the right to determine the state's abortion policy rather than judges legislating such matters from the bench," Albin said. Albin said that the original proposal allows the state legislature to pass policy related to abortion without the state Supreme Court striking it down based on the privacy clause. If members ... (0) Comments left |
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LindaBee2
on Fri Feb 27 at 02:25:am
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Posted by
LindaBee2
on Fri Feb 27 at 02:11:am
NewsMax.Com Court to Hear Case to Reopen Roe V. Wade DALLAS -- A federal appeals court has agreed to hear a request from the woman formerly known as "Jane Roe" to reconsider the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court decision Roe v. Wade that legalized abortion. Norma McCorvey, who joined with anti-abortion activists nearly 10 years ago, is seeking to have the decision overturned, citing what she says is more than 30 years of evidence that abortions are psychologically harmful to women. A federal district judge threw out her initial request in June, saying it was not made within a reasonable time. But the New Orleans-based 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has agreed to hear McCorvey's arguments March 2. "It's something that I've wanted ever since Day One, and it's happening," McCorvey said from her Dallas home. Dallas County District Attorney Bill Hill, whose predecessor Henry Wade who was named in the original lawsuit, has not filed a response to McCorvey's appeal. That may put the appeals court in the unusual position of hearing arguments from only one side. Wade was named in the original case because he was charged with enforcing the Texas law that prevented McCorvey from having an abortion. Hill's office has argued that since that law no longer exists, Hill has no authority to prosecute and should not be sued. More than 20 Texas law school professors concerned about an unbalanced hearing filed a brief Wednesday asking to be allowed to argue the other side of the case. "It's important that the court hear from somebody representing the position that the district court took, which I think is clearly right," said David Schenck, a lawyer representing the professors. "At this point, the case is moot, and she's presenting at best a political question." The Supreme Court decision came after McCorvey had her b... (0) Comments left |
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Posted by
Omega
on Thu Feb 19 at 12:02:pm
I read the responses posted by anonymous at http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php {sick}and frankly it disgusts me how someone can be that apathetic. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love |