Tithing and Baptism

Alpha · Moderators Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 2461

Does n e 1 here tithe? Are we still SUPPOSE to tithe(Is it mandatory)? Please give me your opinions on tithing.

Can you be saved without being baptized? I'm 18 and waiting til I am 21 to be baptized. I feel like I am not ready. I believe in Christ and pray and ask for forgiveness. However, if I should die tomorrow(God forbid), would I be saved without being baptized?

Chrysoprasus · Preacher Joined: 29 Mar 2002 Posts: 397 Location: Ohio

Tithing: I tithe sometimes, sometimes I don't. I don't have a set percent, at times it may be 40%, at times it may be nothing.
I don't believe it's a biblical command. If I have it right the tithe was to pay the temple taxes and such. I feel we SHOULD support our church as much as possible, but if someone's down and out there's no way anybody should tell them they must.
As far as getting baptized, it does look like a commandment, and always follows belief in Christ. Why don't you feel you're ready for it? Only God know the state of your salvation, and obviously if someone can be saved on their deathbed or physically cannot be baptized the bible doesn't say if affects their salvation, Christ is who saves through his blood.
Now, your first commandment after you believe appears to be "be baptized". It would seem like a pretty shakey commitment if one is hestitant about obeying this.
Are you perhaps working your way up to total belief? Sometimes it can be a while coming, I know because I've been there.
I'm not trying to be nosey, I'm just curious.

More to come after your reply to this.
Chrys
_________________
Teach me thy way, O Lord; I will walk in thy truth.

Alpha · Moderators Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 2461

The bible does not say as soon as u believe in Christ be baptized right after. Look at Jesus for example. He was perfect throughout his whole life, even as a child. But he did not get baptized until he was 30. Why was that? Why did he not get baptized when he was a teenager? So I was thinking about doing something similar.

Guest · Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 08:08 am Post subject:

I think you should become baptized as soon as you have an opportunity. some will never get the time to be , but if there is occasion, take it and follow the Lords command.

Tithing is right and there is a prescription laid out in the word. from beginning to end.

In general, tithing has been abused by the money grabbers and they have polutted the system of tithing. you can ID them by their favorite scripture (Mal 3:10) They call us God robbers.

If you go to the word and follow the examples of giving of your tithe and following God and leaving man behind you find a lot of freedom to tithe. and then it is not such a burden as we have been brain washed to believe in.

my opinion only

Aineo · Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2003 11:22 am Post subject:

Guest · Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2003 10:13 am Post subject:

You have read the word and found the third year. I am in the 2nd year and love the way things work according to the word of God.

Ezekiel · New Convert Joined: 20 Nov 2002 Posts: 16

Yes we do have to tithe as the Lord says, there is nothing wrong tithing...

Remeber it is the Lord's money not ours, the money we receive. We are just giving back what is his.

I know we earn it, but we are receiving because he is providing it to us.

Besides, you tithe in your church to help further the course of the gospel in your local area any overseas. This is of course if your pastor is strongly commited. And not taking the money all for himself...

Also as you sow what you reap. The Lord sees that your a giver and he will give you more!!!!

MORE????

YES!!! WHY??? So he can use you to be a light to those in need of God's word!!!!

He knows you have a love to give and so he will greatly use you! PROMISE!!! Pray and ask the Lord about this!

So try and be generous as you give, if you have lots, give!

And if you don't try and give what you have....

Hard, if let say you only earn 10 in 4 weeks but it take dedication...

So don't let your heart be trouble of giving.

Be joyful!

Actually juste, one should only get baptize if that person truly understands what jesus means to to them. No point getting baptize if you truly haven't accpeted and understood what Jesus did for you on the Cross..

Agreed??? Baptism is a sign of a full commitment to Christ.

Guest · Posted: Mon Feb 17, 2003 02:30 am Post subject:

Ezekiel

Could you give the scripture referances to all that you posted, for example

Guest · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 05:47 pm Post subject:

I think that being baptized is something a believer should do when they are ready, but I don't believe the scripture supports that you have to be baptized to be saved. you merely have to confess Jesus and believe in your heart to be saved.

as far as tithing goes, I tithe 10% off my gross pay and have for about 7 years now. tithe means "the tenth", so that is what I give.

sometimes I give for other things too, above my tithe.

TIMMAY!!! · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 05:49 pm Post subject:

Tithing is a Biblical principle that should be followed. There is not a verse, to my knowledge, that says YOU MUST TITHE! However, the scripture does indicate that you should.

If you want to follow your line of thought and say that because the Bible doesn't say that you should tithe in "this scripture" there fore it doesn't apply to me. Then, I'm gonna go find some fine chicka and bang her all night long... cause to my knowledge, the scripture doesn't specifically say I shouldn't.

Werner Herzog · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 08:24 pm Post subject:

all of my money goes toward filmmaking, und 100% of the sweat of my brow is invested in those films, which i make for the glory of God. i dont believe in "tithing," i believe in giving EVERYTHING to God.

Jeder für sich, und Gott gegen alle!!

-Werner-
_________________
Tourism is sin, and travel on foot virtue.

webmaster · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 09:45 pm Post subject:

Amen to that!
_________________
http://www.former-muslims.com

premarital Seth · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:55 pm Post subject:

i'm with Werner - everything i do should reflect God's work in my life, and should be some sort of "tithe" back to Him.

-seth
_________________
premarital Seth - EXPOSED

my eBay stuff - for sale, everything must go

Guest · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:01 pm Post subject:

i'm with seth and herzog......by the way, thank you herzog for the wonderful boxset of movies you directed that i purchased at an excellent price.....

Werner Herzog · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:05 pm Post subject:

Guest · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:07 pm Post subject:

Werner Herzog · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:11 pm Post subject:

Guest · Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:15 pm Post subject:

was it one those life threating situations......you two guys were so silly when together......

Werner Herzog · Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 03:29 am Post subject:

Alpha · Moderators Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 2461

Werner, I see you are doing all your positive works to the glory of God, but let me ask you a question(Anyone else can answer this also). The bible says we are saved by grace, BUT our good works count in heaven. Now the point I'm trying to get to is the topic of reward in heaven. Do you think your reward in heaven will be greater than someone else who was a Christian, but did not have the same oppurtunities as you? I guess what I'm trying to say is, you might be enjoying the way you glorify God, because it benefits God AND yourself, but tithing is a sacrifice, where you ONLY give God the benefits not because you expect something in return, but because you love God. People always complain about the struggles in life and how God created us to be happy all the time. But you have to sometimes "punish" yourself for God's sake. Sort of like fasting. You have to punish the flesh and sacrifice sometimes eventhough you know you are not forced to, and the fact that you consider the things you do to enjoy life as a tithing is in my humble opinion, wrong........GBU!!!!!!!!!!

Guest · Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 10:47 am Post subject:

I occasionally do, but I don't see it as a Christian need or a biblical command.

Alpha · Moderators Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 2461

I'm not saying he HAS to punish himself. I'm just sayin that he is not actually tithing. That is my point. You don't tithe because you get something out of it. When he "tithes", it might be gloryfying God, but he is not sacrificing, which is the whole point of tithing.

Werner Herzog · Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 03:07 pm Post subject:

To be perfectly honest, I don't think God requires us to tithe to the Church, Biblically (actually, if you look at the example given in Acts, we are to give all our possessions to the Church, to be shared by everyone...that is, if you want to be literal about it). I think "tithing" is a scam created by the Church, as a means for making money (not that it's wrong...churches need to make money somehow...but to say that God requires us to give 10% to the Church is an all-out lie...nowhere in the Bible does He say that).

As for sacrifice, I do give large portions of my income to charity, and it organizations that do the work of Christ (aspect of his work that I, due to my career, cannot participate in). I agree with you wholeheartedly that Christianity requires us to sacrifice, that it requires us to take up our own cross and die to our selfish, human ways. I think giving money is something God requires of us. But I do not think He requires that we specifically give 10% of our income to the Church.

-Werner-
_________________
Tourism is sin, and travel on foot virtue.

Guest · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 02:17 am Post subject:

Well the word does teach against lust of the flesh, fornication, also adultry and coveting. so the fine chick thing is out. If you need me to look up the verses for you, well I'm not going to. You are able to stay up all night, so you have plenty of time to look them up for yourself.

premarital Seth · Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2003 03:06 am Post subject:

Bascom Lamar Lunsford	BibleMemoryMusic
Channels3	Christmas Hymns
Come_Shining_Through	Dave
Don Daley	Harmonaires
Hymns	JCR
Karl Kohlhase	Luke Bell
Melinda Fulford	Vintage Bible College
Robert Evans	Robert Evans
Johnny & Nelda Flanagan	Commercials
Oracles of God	Parodeities
Parodeities Beats All 7	Parodeities Between Rock 8
Parodeities Country 9	Parodeities_DD_5
Parodeities Fair Aussies 3	Parodeities God Rocks 2
Parodeities Kid Stuff 4	Parodeities Not Invented Here 10
Parodeities Paraoke 11	Parodeities Rocks 6
PoetTree	Real_Truz
The Maccabee Project	audio
audio2	children
christmas	commercials
creation	lo-saint
messengerproject_com	oracles
public_domain	public_domain2
public_domain3	sermons
tagnet_org_joyfulnoise	text_to_mp3

Tithing and Baptism

Freejesus SiteMap

Websites we Host on our server