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[GOBSTOPER9@AOL.C0M]

HELLO, I AM A STUDENT AT WESTMINSTER CHRISTIAN ACADEMY.
WE HAVE A ASSIGNMENT TO DO A PROJECT, I AM DOING MINE ON ABORTION AND NEED TO KNOW IF I MAY USE SOME OF YOUR ABORTION PICTURES FROM YOUR WEBSITE. I AM TRYING TO SHOW EVERYONE IN MY CLASS HOW STRONGLY I DISLIKE ABORTION AND I THINK YOUR PICTURES WOULD HELP A LOT. PLEASE E-MAIL ME BACK AT GOBSTOPER9@AOL.COM

[Guest]

u super religious guys are bastards

[billsfantasy]

HEllo, my name is Nikki. I was looking at some of these Abortion pics
http://www.freejesus.net/abortion/index.php

and I feel like woman think that it's fine and okay to get rid of god's gift to them so easy! There is woman out here who wants kids and can't have kids and we have woman killing there unborn! i think this is full of shit.
Woman think just because they got raped or they don't want the child they feel it's okay to do this...it's NOT!
if you don't want the child don't kill it...give it up for adoption or something! I feel since the society is telling women go on and do it...they feel it's okay to do this...but it's not okay! I think abortion should not be a choice for women! and it should be a crime! it's just like killing a person because they dont' want them!
If a momen and her husband can go to jail or get tried for the death sentence i feel that abortion should be equal to this illigal act!
Abortion should not even be in a women's mind...killing a child unborn or walking the earth. is plan out wrong! I'm sorry But i don't agree with this abortion thing! never let just because you got raped or your family wants you to or my man is going to leave me...be a reason for you to take a life. Because if you bring something in this world you might as well let it continue...but don't do Abortion!

[Alpha]

Let's not forget that abortion does not only come from woman who can't support their children, but most abortions come from a result of fornication. Hey Webmaster, you should have a forum about fornication, cuz it looks like most people feel that it's O.K. to have sex before marriage as long as there is no abortion. Whatever you sow in the flesh, you will reap its consequences in due time. These are not my sayings, but what the bible teaches. So if you disagree, your beef is not with me, but the word of God.

[beth]

this(abortion)is wrong and people should rot in h.e.l.l. for it

[Qua]

That is so so sad to see the babys like that

[crazycuttie5]

i cant belive that some one will kill there child everyone who has an abortion is comitting a sin

thou shalt not kill

[LB]

I think you all don't know what you are talking about.... Unless you have ever been in the position faced with abortion, then you can't really comment. When a woman makes the agonising choice of having an abortion, its what she feels is right for her and the baby. Don't judge what you don't understand.......

Jesus went on the cross to forgive others sins.... Real christians remember that.

[Guest]

i have been doing my coursework on abortion at skool and have seen som of the pictures they are emotional pictures and i think women who are having an abortion should look at them at they will soon change there mind. [quote]

[Alpha]

[TCHMERRIT.99]

IF ANYONE HAS GOT ANY INFORMATION AND COULD TELL ABOUT IT LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I NEED TO KNOW ABOUT ILLIGAL ABORTION

[Guest]

[Chrysoprasus]

If the baby is already dead a natural abortion has already occurred. Nobody is against removing a deceased child from it's mother's body. That is not abortion. Abortion is killing the child by removing him/her or killing and then removing him/her.
Chrys
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[Guest]

if a baby is already dead in the womb it must be removed to prevent danger to the mother that isnt considered an abortion. it is considered a miscarrage and no one can stop that from happening but they can stop their vital baby from being ripped out of its home and life! Its not the babies faught it was concieved why should it pay the ultimate consiquenses for its parents stupidity!!!!!!!!!!

[none]

i think that if you were pregnant and it was totally accidental, and that if you were a teen, or an adult and you dont want to give this child a life that isnt going to come from 2 parents or a good home, and having adoption parents is always best, and if its in its first trimester it's okay to have an abortion. if you dont want to bring someone in this world when you know you can give it your best, then abortion is okay with me. i stand by every woman who is with me on this. If you were to keep on having abortions on purpose then its wrong. Everyone deserves a second chance. there is nothing worse then giving a child a life when the life is already ruined. Learn from your mistakes and dont repeat it. I do have religious beliefs, but all the people who are totally against it, i see you ways, but you cant exactly talk if you havent been put in the sitiation. there is a difference from knowing the path and walking the path. thats all i can say, and will say the rest of my life.

[Emily]

yes i understand christians are suppose to forgive. it doesn'st matter if you're a crack head, hooker, lesbian, murderer, molester, etc. GOD still loves YOU, but not your SINS! i say once the baby is in that stomach it's a baby and babies are humans. ask yourself "what if my mommy or daddy did this to me, would i not be what i am or what i'm going to be in the future." if GOD didn't want you to have that baby he wouldn't of given it to you. if your pregnat the LEAST you could do is be the women you were to sleep with the guy then you are women enough to have the Baby. if you don't want to be responsible for this child or if you think that you can't afford this baby, PLEASE give it up for adoption. Their are women out there who can't have babies and would love to take care of yours or raise the soft cuddly baby. :x

[?]

do you people have any idea what life is like out side of the church, NO i dont think you do.

say a young girl who has come from a poor back ground dosnt know her mum or her dad gose out dose her thing, takes drugs drinks has a good time, one day at 15 she finds out shes going to be a mouther, she dosent know th father shes got no where to turn, now one of two things she can get it KILLED as you put it make some think of her kife get a good job find some one who cares for her then start a loving famiely.

or two she can have the child and live in a shitty flat trying to bring the child up as best she can but ends up hating it for distroying her life the child will then go of the rails.

not every one has a large group of people who will help them.

now how many of you who have gone to the trouble of getting these images or running your little churches can say you live badly e.g. im not talking about not being able to by those shoes you want i mean not having the mouny for your next hit.

now you can say that being a drug or what ever your vice is ( putting all your faith in a organisaion that only alowes men to be at the very top and hates gays who are humans ) the problem is we need to help people to make the right chose some times people carnt help there path.

you lot need to take a long look at your sel'ves times are changing, the church is duying out and your children are proberly haveing sex with some one right now with out a comdom ortaking drugs

[webmaster]

So you perfer mass murder of all the poor people in the entire earth while you are at it also! Why not? They should not have been born in the first place! They all should have been aborted in the first place! They are all un-happy and don't deserve to live!



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[Guest]

im not saying its good or its bad but how can you say that they should rot in hell. are u god no your not so let him do say that

[Alpha]

[Kayb0123]

I am doing a report on Abortion and found this site... and I must say I am very shocked to see some of the language on a so called "religious" site.
I am a very proud believer in Jesus Christ however, I am also a believer in Pro-choice. There are different situations that need different resolutions. The truth is Jesus will take care of them all.
Who am I or anyone here can say what is right? What if you were told that once your child was born they would only live for 10 minutes and during that 10 minutes they would suffer. Who am I to do that to any human being? Or if you found out your unborn child would not live a normal life, are you ready to handle that responsiblity? Or would you give your child to God to take care of for you until it is your time?
I am not casting stones everyone has their opinions, and this will be a debate until end of time. However, we should look at what the situations are before we pass judgements.

[angelove]

i think that abortion is wrong to do! i think if your mature enough to have
sex and not use condoms or anything to pervent a kid then its you
fault and by killing the child beacuse it was born and made from you
is wrong! if you decied to have sex and not want a kid why not
try to prevent it instead of killin a human you go to jail for a killin a human why is it okay to kill a baby just beacuse it was born and not able to speak does that make it right wouldnet it be just the same to kill a baby that been alive for awhile its the same as a new born baby i think that if you decied to not have a child and u have one in a case of rape or something drastic has happen thier is always adoption some people cant have kids of thier own what about thoes people they should have to right to want to adopt a human someone who whould care for it rather then see it die so im saying if you people every decied that u dont want the child think about how happy it would be if you let it live and be free like you even if your not going to raise it

[DemonsKiss]

I am sure that my opinion will not be liked by many of the users on this forum. But, since others are allowed to post their opinions, I shall do so as well. Think of this logically, but none of the users have to agree with how I feel on this topic.

Abortion is a very touchy subject. Many people will agree on that. However, no one should tell another person what choices to make, but to give help in anyway possible.

I am pro-choice. I believe it is the women's choice on what she thinks is best for the unborn child. At the time of abortion, the baby is not a fetus at this time, but a mass of cells. That is why those pictures on aborted children are bull. I have seen those same pictures on rotten.com, and one of those pictures were created by a person I know on a photo shop program! Yes, it is dusgusting to think that a person would be sick enough to create something so vivid.

A women who knows that she cannot provide for this unborn child has options of either adoption after birth or aborting. It is the welfare of this person and their child that should be considered first. If she knows that has the right to have an abortion. Accidents do happen no matter what birth control method is used and if the women feels that abortion is the best option, do not think that she is a heartless demon who has no love or feelings for this unborn child. It is a very hard decision for anyone to make.

However, I do not think much of women who use abortions as a regular method of birth control. That is wrong. If people have sex, they need to consider all the possibilities of what can happen, and all the risks of STD's, emotional feelings, pregnancy, and what not.

Another thing to consider are those women who have been raped and end up getting pregnant against their will. Some may be able to devote themselves to parenthood, and others may not due to age, and not being able to support both themselves and their baby at the moment. Is it fair to them to get harassed when they walk through the parking lot to an abortion clinic? No, it isn't.

I'm not sure if any of this makes sense, but I have tried to put my feelings to words and it might not come through to everyone. To sum it up, as it might help, is this.

If people decide to have sex, but do not want to have a child, then protection of the highest level should be the number one consideration. Or no sex at all. People should discuss with their partner the pros and cons of sex and what the outcomes could be. People should respect one another and the choices that are made, despite their personal beliefs. No one should preach that there is one way that is the right way, unless it is a wanted conversation.

I am sorry to those who I have offended, but please remember that everyone has a right to their opinion. If anything, learn about abortions yourself instead of going on what others have said. Again, those photos are on the rotten.com website, and can easily be made in any photo shop program. All I ask is that everyone respects my opinion, as I respect all of yours. Please respect my religion as well, as I do love all of you. IF anyone wonders why I am on this site, when I follow something else, it is because I am a very open minded person and I do like to know how other people think, what they believe in, and how their religions work. I hope that there are many other people on this forum that are open minded as well.

Thank you for your time and understanding.
Wolf.
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[Alpha]

No one is taking away a females choice to have an abortion. They can do whatever they want. But just because someone has a choice does not make their choice the right one. I, and any other individual have a choice to go on a murder spree. Does that make it right? How would you like it Demonskiss, if someone who you knew closely, was killed by someone else (God forbid)? When you asked the murderer why he/she did it, the murderer responded, "I had free will and it was my choice." I'm sure you will not be a very happy person, and your anger will display your hypocracy. You and I both know what the right choice is. You said yourself:

[Chrysoprasus]

I'm confused by some of the comments on this topic. If it is a woman's right to choose what is best for her child while it is still in her, why is it not her right to still choose after the child is out of her body? What if that child is born with a birth defect that will cause suffering? What if when he/she is six months old she finds she is too poor to care for the child?
What's the difference? Why not still kill the child then and put it out of it's misery or prevent an unsatisfactory life in which you think he'd be unhappy?
Gina
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Teach me thy way, O Lord; I will walk in thy truth.

[your truth is a lie]

You fools you have no idea what you speak of. Even an innocent child would realize that your logic is utter folly. You judge human beings' decency based on whether they believe in your exact definition of god, when in actuality Jesus Christ came to many different cultures in many different forms, does he not say that he must go and will return later, for he has other children to watch over. An indivduals explanation, and interpretation of the word of christ comes from there own cultural and social histories, not from what YOU and your child molesting priest decide what the "true" word is. Unfortunately not everybody in this world speak sdoes not speak english. Haven't you realized yet that "god", "yaweh", and "allah" are all the same entity. they are an indivdual, omniscient, omnipresent being. In all monotheistic religions there is one god that is all controlling, sometimes it chooses to relegate powers to us lesser mortal beings, but it is always in total control. You are just a pawn in a game that is enormous beyond your comprehension, do not pretend to know what the true word is, because in the end that is the surest way of securing your own damnation. Your arrogance and stubborness will lead you along the path of the false christians. The ones who pretend to follow the word of christ (i.e. the catholics, or the mormons) but instead just pass judgement on cultures that they have no understanding of. Instead be the best christian that you can be and do not worry about the sins of others because they are of NO concern to you. It is not your responsibility to look after someone else's immortal soul. Be one with god and with the world. Live in humility, and poverty, and enjoy it. Do not pass judgement or impose your views on others that is not the way of the christian, if one wants to follow the word of Christ, then to his word they will come.
If you have read to this point then I applaud you for your open mindedness, i realize that my views are not that of a conservative christian. but i thank you for your time. Enjoy your life to it's fullest capacity and live by two quotes

Judge not yest ye be judged- J.C.


Christianity is a great idea it would be nice if more people really tried it- Ghandi

[Aineo]

We welcome courteous discussion on any issue. Your concept of who Jesus is and what He wants seems to be tainted by modern sociology and new age philosophy and has nothing to do with Biblical truth.

Jesus said His followers are those who do the will of His Father so unless you can His Father would approve of abortion I would say your the one who lacks discernment and knowledge.
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[Charlene]

[beads]

[onepath22]

I don't agree with abortion, however I was wondering does anyone think it is acceptable in cases of rape and incest? I think that would be the only grounds for abortion to be carried out, or perhaps if the life of the mother is in danger. However, there should be evidence of the rape, or incestous rape if the abortion is allowed to proceed.

[On My Way]

I personally do not think an abortion should ever be preformed except if the mothers life is at stake. and even then it better be at stake and not an inconvience. or else!
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[beads]

[onepath22]

So a woman who was raped by her father or a relative or even a stranger should proceed with the pregnancy? Even some of the churches allowed abortion in those cases, they were called "therapeutic" abortions, or they could be permitted only prior to "the quickenening" or the first movement of the child.

[beads]

[Charlene]

[beads]

[onepath22]

My guess is this is a man talking (beads) so you wouldn't know what it might feel like to have to raise a child who was the result from that rape, and then to have to tell the child later on who their father is and why their mother isn't with their father. So do you agree with the morning after pill? Is it lawful for a woman who has been raped to take the morning after pill to keep fertilization from occuring or is that murder as well?

[On My Way]

[beads]

[Aineo]

[onepath22]

I personally know 13 year old teenage girl who was raped by her cousin and chose abortion. I worked at a domestic violence shelter for awhile, and the girls father threw her out when she told him she was pregnant. He wouldn't even listen to her reasoning. The process was difficult however now she is doing well. I think there should be exceptions made for some cases, however if a woman has an abortion in her 30s because it interferes with her career, that's just wrong. Abortion is wrong, but so is rape.

[Aineo]

[beads]

[beautiful_always]

I think that the only person who is allowed to judge anyone is GOD himself, you all should be ashamed of yourselves, you have no right to tell people whether they are right or wrong. does it really satisfy you to tell other people they are living wrong once they realize it and god touches them they will know. don't get me wrong you should preach the word of god but to judge someone you have no right, and no matter what choice you make as long as you repent and ask for forgiveness god will forgive you. so it really does make yourself look bad when you sre trying to act as if you are the child of god and judging people so why don't all of you ask for forgiveness and keep your opinions to yourself.

[Aineo]

[On My Way]

[beads]

What's your opinion on the Great Commission, beautiful_always? You know..... God's direct commandment for us to go out and tell people that they are wrong and that they need to turn to Him.
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