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Aburaees
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 Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:21 am Post subject: ARABIC ENTYMOLOGY |
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As I understand it, in the Arabic language every word can be traced back to a triliteral root.
E.g. Muhammad, Ahmad, Hamed, e.t.c. come from the root "hmd" where the "h" sound is strongly aspirated from the throat.
E.g. Wahid, Ahad, e.t.c. come from the root "ahd".
I would like to know if any Muslims or Christians out there could shed some light on what the Arabic roots are for the following words, and possibly provide other Arabic words that come from the same roots;
1) Jahannam - hell
2) Injil - gospel
3) Taurat - torah
4) Zabur - psalms
5) 'Isa - jesus
6) Jibreel - gabriel
7) Mika'eel - michael
 Ya'qoob - jacob
9) Aadam - adam
10) Hawwaa - eve
11) Ishaq - isaac
12) Ismaa'eel - ishmael
13) Ilyaas - elijah
14) Daawood - david
15) Zakariyyaa - zechariah
16) Sulaimaan - solomon
17) Loot - lot
1 Masih - messiah
19) Moosa - moses
20) Nooh - noah
21) Haaroon - aaron
22) Yoosuf - joseph
23) Yoonus - jonah
24) Al-Yasa' - elisha
Oh, and what do these words mean in Arabic? most of them are names, and none of the name-books I have looked at have been able to give the meanings of the names.
I wouldn't expect anyone to find all of them as I have been unable to do so myself. |
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H2O
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| Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Aburaees wrote: | | As I understand it, in the Arabic language every word can be traced back to a triliteral root. |
This is not true. Every Word in the Arabic language does not have a root, cause some of them are Arabicized words. When looking up such words in an Arabic dictionary they are placed under Arabic roots that have a linguistical association.
| Aburaees wrote: | | Oh, and what do these words mean in Arabic? most of them are names, and none of the name-books I have looked at have been able to give the meanings of the names. |
They are Arabicized words, you will only get a linguistical meaning in the Arabic language if your lucky to find one not an etymological meaning .
If you notice in the Quran none of those words use tanween. Tanween is only applied to those words of Arabic origin and root. The Name Alllaah is of these groups of names that are Arabicized words
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Liberate
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Good morning H2O my dear friend how are you this fine morning all well I hope lets see what baseless theories you have for us today...
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If you notice in the Quran none of those words use tanween. Tanween is only applied to those words of Arabic origin and root. The Name Alllaah is of these groups of names that are Arabicized words |
You have to admire H2O's regurgitation of old age material based on misleading authority (himself), he secretly hopes new readers are unaware he has been thoroughly embarassed unable to prove that the root allah did not come from a pagan source:
http://www.freejesus.net/home/viewtopic.php?p=51368
You will notice H2O does not reply to certain individuals (maybe the wounds are still fresh) he knows the score, he knows he cannot defend the koran based on his misleading authority and his arguments have been debunked too many times to recall, so he focuses on new readers who he hopes are impressed by his story of Christianity to Judaism to islam, I suspect this fellow has never set foot in a synagogue or church sounds like another al taqiyyah(deception) in practice. |
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Aburaees
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| H2O wrote: | | Aburaees wrote: | | As I understand it, in the Arabic language every word can be traced back to a triliteral root. |
This is not true. Every Word in the Arabic language does not have a root, cause some of them are Arabicized words. When looking up such words in an Arabic dictionary they are placed under Arabic roots that have a linguistical association.
| Aburaees wrote: | | Oh, and what do these words mean in Arabic? most of them are names, and none of the name-books I have looked at have been able to give the meanings of the names. |
They are Arabicized words, you will only get a linguistical meaning in the Arabic language if your lucky to find one not an etymological meaning .
If you notice in the Quran none of those words use tanween. Tanween is only applied to those words of Arabic origin and root. The Name Alllaah is of these groups of names that are Arabicized words |
Thank you H2O,
I apologise for the defect in my statement. What I meant to say was that every Arabic word has a triliteral root.
So can I assume that the words/names that I listed are not Arabic words at all, as an Arabicized word is not an Arabic word?
The reason I posted this is because all the words that I listed actually have meaning to Christians and Jews.
I was just wondering if they had meaning for Muslims.
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H2O
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 08:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Aburaees wrote: | | So can I assume that the words/names that I listed are not Arabic words at all, as an Arabicized word is not an Arabic word? |
Only two names that are in that list have the same meaning semetically in general which all share the same roots are Aadam and Masih. These names mean the same exact thing in Arabic as they do in Hebrew etc.
As for all the other words they are not originally Arabic words but are Arabicized words from a former language to Arabic. For example: The name Moses and Abraham are the Englishized forms of the Hebrew Moshaa and Ibrahim etc with many other words in English that are not originally english but are derived from another language.
My name is "Dimitri" which is greek. When speaking to my brothers in arabiyyah they say "deemeetiree" which is now arabicized.
Once the name changes from its original to be incorporated into another language I would assume it belongs to that language being that its change was to conform to its grammar.
| Liberate wrote: | | You will notice H2O does not reply to certain individuals (maybe the wounds are still fresh) |
In the teachings of Christianity and in Islam "..do not cast pearls to swines.." is a principle of wisdom that is adhered to by those who practice righteousness in both religions.
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Liberate
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| Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Liberate wrote: | | You will notice H2O does not reply to certain individuals (maybe the wounds are still fresh) |
| Quote: | | In the teachings of Christianity and in Islam "..do not cast pearls to swines.." is a principle of wisdom that is adhered to by those who practice righteousness in both religions. |
Oh dear I am now classed as swine? Dont worry I have been called much worse. Just a little strange someone who would openly applaud the murder of Theo Van Gogh and state he has no problem with pedofilia would be the first to call me a swine ( then again if the jews are apes and pigs maybe christians are not that far behind eh?). The readers must be wondering where this hate is stemming from.
You know when the insults become personal you have either run out of defending your pagan diety and have nothing left to throw but insults which is symptomatic of ALL muslim apologists I have come across. I am assuming this is suppose to be pearls of wisdom you are referring to, all someone has to do is read your posts to see the depth of wisdom of a modern day muslim apologetic, lol H2O I stopped taking you seriously a long time ago to 99% of the muslim ummah you are an apostate making up your own rules of what the koran says dismissing ahadiths at will claiming they contradict the koran when in essence they contradict nothing but your conscience and re interpreting the koran the way you see fit, claiming you are without error maybe you see yourself as another Rashad Khalifa, a prophet in the making, like I said H2O I have never seen anybody embarassed in a forum as much as you but comes back for more, it really is a great pity this one man crusade is hoping to enter a brothel in the sky at the end of it all to practice righteousness eh?
ps: the thread is still open it is not too late you can still bring one source of how your arabicized allah came about the fact that you have been unable to produce even one source speaks for itself, it's one thing to worship a pagan diety in ignorance it's another to worship a pagan diety with the full knowledge of it |
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john doe
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Well. I’m not really an expert in origins of language but I do speak Arabic and Aramaic; the latter being my first. However there are lots of word similarities between them and since Aramaic has been around for a long time (BCE) although very few people in the world actually utilize it. I’d say Arabic is derived from Aramaic or perhaps largely from it.
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